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Vehicle to Cloud Expert Group

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Meetings

Bi-weekly on Monday's @ 10:30 U.S. Eastern, resuming 25 January 2021

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Objectives

  • Collect and prioritize use cases
  • Define Reference Architecture
  • Identify existing, missing or reusable components
  • Identify and document reference applications
  • Identify and document any AGL framework gaps
  • Recruit volunteers to build out initial demonstration(s)

Business Use Case Candidates

Payments

 Sharing, Parking, Petro/Charging, Traffic

Enable “Right to be Forgotten”/Privacy and Consent in a data driven ecosystem economy

 In-Vehicle Personalization
 Usage-based Insurance
 Vehicle/Ride Sharing/Car Rental

Tracking

 Asset management
 Cargo tracking

Technical Use Case Candidates

Telematics Integration

 GPS telematics pushed to a MQTT queue in the cloud
 OEM Data integration / management
 User Data Privacy Management

Authentication

 User-to-Vehicle 
 Vehicle-to-Cloud
 Trusted Vehicle Identities

Shared Data Management

 Third Party usage & access
 Data Encryption & Signing

Connectivity

 LTE/5G connectivity 
 QOS

Application Candidates

Authenticate to third-party subscription service

Save Vehicle preferences from car to cloud
Cloud-initiated Feature Activation

CAN Data is encrypted, signed and stored in OEM Cloud

* Out of Scope for Current Phase: Integrated Device Management (OMA/DM or OMA LWM2M) Secure/Software Over-the-air Updates (SOTA) - Discussed 30-Jul-2018 Remote Vehicle Diagnostics - Added / discussed 30-Jul-2018 Predictive Maintenance Data Tagging in-vehicle

Members

  • Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
  • Michael Reimann - AICAS
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Paul Barker - Konsulko
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Nedeljko Miljevic - AVL

Roadmap

The V2C EG Roadmap is part of the overall AGL Roadmap and can be found on this page.

Meeting Notes

October 4, 2021

Attendees:

  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Sergio Rojas

September 20, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Paul Barker - SanCloud
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
  • Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel
  • Richard had no update - could not make the meeting.
  • AICAS and SanCloud making progress.

August 23, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Paul Barker - SanCloud
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
  • Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel
  • Richard had no update.
  • AICAS successfully integrated the 5g module and started some initial testing.

August 9, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Paul Barker - SanCloud
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
  • Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel
  • AICAS has switched their work to use Raspberry Pi 4 and has started on their work. They will be incorporating a Waveshare 5g module. Damiano will update the Confluence page with the hardware set up.

July 26, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Paul Barker - SanCloud
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
  • AICAS is waiting for hardware to arrive, but has started some preparatory work.

July 12, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Paul Barker - SanCloud
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko

June 28, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • No updates from AICAS. They are discussing internally and working on getting management approval to proceed.

May 17, 2021

Attendees:

  • SC ranked “Identity Management for Vehicle to Cloud”
    • Scoping needed
      • OEM (VIN), Fleet, Maintainance
      • vs
      • User data, Preferences
    • VIN vs TPM of telematics device discussion,
      • Unique ID instead of VIN (see after market use case)
        • asset identifyer
        • asset type
        • attestation
    • Richard will add scope to confluence for next SC call
    • Paul: made some progress on the server side of things. Working on network boot with u-boot.
    • Richard: likely need to fall-back to J7 (TDA4 & DRA8 , J721EXCP01EVM)
      • need to check support in-tree/meta-ti - need j7-evm (AI JSM: add simple machine templates)

Apr 19, 2021

Attendees:

  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Michael Reimann - AICAS
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Paul Barker - Konsulko
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko

Mar 22, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Michael Reimann - AICAS
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Paul Barker - Konsulko
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko

Mar 8, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
  • Michael Reimann - AICAS
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Richard updated the confluence page with more information on use cases and a story board for Telematics demo #1
  • AICAS will work on a story board for demo #2 for the next meeting.
  • Richard met with Quectel about their 5G board. They will be joining the AMM next week.

Feb 22, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Norbert Steinhauser - AICAS
  • Michael Reimann - AICAS
  • Chih-Ming Hsieh - AICAS
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Continued to discuss the use cases. Richard mentioned working backwards from the customer's expectations.
    • Who is the customer?
    • AICAS is a Tier 2 working with OEMs and Tier 1s to get their technology into vehicle systems. Enable 3rd parties to bring their applications in vehicle.
  • Richard is getting a 5G Quectel eval board in the next month. Discussed the challenges around connectivity and multiple connections.

Feb 8, 2021

Attendees:

  • Walt Miner - LF
  • Jan-Simon - LF
  • Norbert Steinhauser - AICAS
  • Michael Reimann - AICAS
  • Chih-Ming Hsieh - AICAS
  • Damiano Senese - AICAS
  • Abraham - Independent developer in San Diego
  • Richard Elberger - AWS
  • Spent time on introductions
  • Last year MERA contributed plug-ins for Microsoft Azure and AWS.
  • AICAS reviewed how their product might use AGL
  • Richard: Let's define a goal for the end of 2021.
    • Propose three different reference designs for telematics by the end of the year.
      • TCU with AICAS connected TBD
      • TCU with TBD
      • TCU with TBD
    • Factor in the use of private data centers (e.g. Onstar) in the reference design
  • Created a V2C EG Confluence page to document the ideas for reference designs.

24-August-2020

Call cancelled due to local wildfires

10-August-2020

Introduced the VW guys to the team

13-July-2020

No one dialed in so call disconnected at 7:39 AM PDT

29-June-2020

  • mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
  • santhosh babu @ ford motor
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

Welcome Santosh from Ford Motor Company! Mera Systems also discussed their web service and is actively collaborating with T-Systems (who updated us that they 'were able to get things running and only have to get our own HTML5 app communicating with' it.)

15-June-2020

call rescheduled due to conflicts

01-June-2020

  • leonid.lazarev@mera.com
  • mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com
  • shankhoghosh123@gmail.com

Mera Team updated us on conversation last week with T-Systems and Azure connector; moved all future calls back by 30 minutes (new start time is 7:30 AM PDT.)

18-May-2020

  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

No one dialed in so call ended 6 minutes after top of the hour.

04-May-2020

  • leonid.lazarev@mera.com
  • mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

Mera shared that their azure integration (view notes from previous call below) is awaiting approval- see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-3351; they have aws prototyped; gcp a possibility.

There was a great V2C and C2V demo shown on our last call;

20-April-2020

  • tim.laine@t-systems.com
  • andrey.shamanin@mera.com
  • mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
  • parth dode
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

There was a great V2C and C2V demo shown on our last call; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOOo3pyjHVb_yVMrI_KMt4iKdAjeyWbL/view?usp=sharing has a recording of it. Given ForgeRock is in the Identity and Access Management space, any user_id you can easily surface/present/pass along would get my vote as the next attribute that is added to the payload in the next version of the demo.

06-April-2020

  • tim.laine@t-systems.com
  • leonard.lazarev@mera.com
  • mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

Discussed Mera's implementation of auto telematic messages published to IotHub in Azure, and possible future work to (perhaps) do something in AWS given T-systems choice on said platform. FYI we may have a high-level demo of the former on the next team call.

23-March-2020

Attendees: the Mera personnel referenced below.

The folks from our most-recent member Mera (Mikhail, Leonard and and Andrey) shared work they are doing re: GPS telematics pushed to a MQTT queue in Azure; moving forward those payloads and the mechanism could be generalized so that it could be published to any cloud vendor. This seems like a great use-case for this working group thus it has been added to the UCs listed above.

09-March-2020

No one dialed in (perhaps due to day-light savings time-zone change in US) so call cancelled 6 minutes after the hour

24-February-2020

Call postponed due to RSA trade show

03-February-2020

Call postponed due to EMEA travel

13-January-2020

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • scott.murray@konsulko.com

Welcomed Scott to this 'party line'; waited for Tim to join to get more details on their SSI/DID framework selection; topic of conversation tabled until our next call on 1.27.20

16-December-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • wminer@linuxfoundation.org
  • jose.bollo@iot.bzh
  • cminyard@mvista.com

Briefly discussed Decentralized Identity for T-system's parking demo. Hopefully we can discuss the details of their solution when we reconvene after the holidays on January 13th.

4-November-2019

==No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT

14-October-2019

==No call given F2F meetings in Monte Carlo

7-October-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • tim.laine@t-systems.com
  • wminer@linuxfoundation.org
  • jose.bollo@iot.bzh

Discussed:

  • getting 'more information' on the Self Sovereign ID platform that T-systems will use in their ongoing parking payment demo (possibly shown at CES 2020). Drivers license verification can be leveraged in said platform.
  • having a F2F meeting in Monte Carlo at the AGL Monte Carlo conference later this month
  • (given that last point) cancelling the call for 10.21.19 (or 12.10.19 depending on your locale)

23-September-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT

9-September-2019

call cancelled due to scheduling conflicts

12-August-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock.com

No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT

29-July-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • Tim Laine, Lorenz, Marius @t-systems.com
  • Aymeric, Fulup, Jose, Loic @ iot.bzh
Recap
  • Discussed T-Systems upcoming Parking payment demo; discussed if parts of our collective past IdM demo (the NFC tag demo shown at CES '19) can be leveraged for said demo
  • Retrieving user attributes from the IdM could be interesting to show for a payment demo

15-July-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • tim.laine@t-systems.com
Recap
  • Discussed T-Systems upcoming Parking payment demo (possibly shown at the next AGL conference)
  • Robbie to ping iot.bzh to see if parts of their past IdM work can be leveraged for said demo

1 July-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • tim.laine@t-systems.com
  • Jan-Simon Möller
Recap
  • Update: T-Systems is working on an upcoming Car Share and Parking payment demo
  • Given the maturity of this demo, we have moved it up in the U.C. list above.

17-June-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • muthuganesan.muthiah@panasonicautomotive.com
  • wminer@linuxfoundation.org
  • jsmoeller@linuxfoundation.org
Agenda
  • Reviewed charter/mandate of the group for new members
  • Recapped work thus far on Business and Technical UCs
  • Concluded that we should look at the work in the Connectivity EG given common synergies

20-May-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • aymeric.aillet@iot.bzh
  • jose.bollo@iot.bzh
  • tim.laine@t-systems.com
  • wminer@linuxfoundation.org
Agenda
  • Introductions
  • Further discussions on prioritizing the existing bulleted items under the Business Use Cases (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/doku.php?id=eg-v2c#business_use_case_candidates) in order to get a shorter, conciser list. Said list is now updated given feedback from this call but is considered a 'living document' (Work In Progress).
  • Specific discussions on the call: a. how do we 'enable GDPR compliance' and b. added car rental
  • Goal is to have said list 'ratified' before next general AGL meeting.

06-May-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • aymeric.aillet@iot.bzh
  • johan.cahier@iot.bzh
  • (call-in dialler #1)
Agenda

22-October-2018

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Ashley Stevenson (ForgeRock)
  • Daniel Bernal (ARM)
  • B
  • C
Agenda
  • Discussion Point #1
  • Discussion Point #2

08-October-2018

  • Discussed Business use case prioritization with Walt, who will present to Advisory Board and other members for feedback
  • Discussed creation of a V2C EG White Paper using the new Confluence site
  • Discussed AECC

13-August-2018

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Ashley Stevenson
  • Michael Tworek
  • Tiejun Chen
  • Walt Miner
Discussion Topics
  • Reviewed business use case candidate list with Walt - feedback that SOTA, while technically V2C, has been well covered in other areas; also that GDPR (Privacy / Compliance) was a topic of interest during a recent Advisory Board meeting
  • Reviewed some other business use cases from MOBI initiative (https://www.dlt.mobi/) provided by Michael Tworek; will review and cross-reference with existing use cases
  • Once consolidated, we will provide the list of business use cases for Walt to circulate to get community feedback on prioritization
  • Moved “Shared Data Management” down to technical use cases, as its an underpinning technical theme that supports many business use cases, rather than a business use case unto itself

30-July-2018

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Rafal Garbat
  • Tiejun Chen
  • Ashley Stevenson
  • Jan-Simon Moeller
  • Hiroto Imamura
Discussion Topics
  • Attendees agreed to keep minutes and notes on this wiki page
  • Discussed the need for cloud-side integrations for V2C use cases, which is a relatively new angle for existing apps and demos that do not necessarily depend on external integration with cloud apps to demonstrate use case
  • Discussed OTA updates as one example
  • Discussed some intersections with Connectivity EG, but per Jan-Simon, this EG mostly focused on Wifi, Bluetooth, etc.
  • Hiroto suggested we survey OEM AGL members to determine their top V2C use cases
  • Rafal mentioned how most vehicle data today is OEM-specific
  • Ashley mentioned looking to other standards bodies, like CCC for V2C use cases
  • Rafal suggested considering 5G impact on V2C use cases
  • Team agreed to create a simple slide deck with suggested use cases and circulate to SAT, then to broader AGL members, including Advisory Board

16-July-2018

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Archans
  • Ashley Stevenson
  • Daniel Bernal
  • Fulup-IotBzh
  • Harunobu Kurokawa
  • Hiroto Imamura
  • José Bollo [Iot.Bzh]
  • Michael Tworek
  • Pushpavati
  • Rafal Garbat
  • Tiejun Chen
  • Walt Miner
  • Léonard Moustacchis
Discussion Topics
  • EG Team Objectives
  • Use Case Candidates (Business and Technical)
  • Application Candidates
  • Discussed intersections with and evolving meaning of “Telematics”

Tokyo F2F Meeting Attendees - 2018-02-22

  • Ashley Stevenson - ForgeRock
  • Daniel Bernal - Arm
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Takuo Koguchi - Hitachi
  • Artem Mygaiev - EPAM - artem_mygaiev@epam.com
  • Hisao Munakata - Renesas
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