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  • Collect and prioritize use cases
  • Define Reference Architecture
  • Identify existing, missing or reusable components
  • Identify and document reference applications
  • Identify and document any AGL framework gaps
  • Recruit volunteers to build out initial demonstration(s)

Business Use Case Candidates


 Sharing, Parking, Petro/Charging, Traffic

Enable “Right to be Forgotten”/Privacy and Consent in a data driven ecosystem economy

 In-Vehicle Personalization
 Usage-based Insurance
 Vehicle/Ride Sharing/Car Rental

Technical Use Case Candidates

Telematics Integration

 GPS telematics pushed to a MQTT queue in the cloud
 OEM Data integration / management
 User Data Privacy Management


 Trusted Vehicle Identities

Shared Data Management

 Third Party usage & access
 Data Encryption & Signing

Application Candidates

Authenticate to third-party subscription service

Save Vehicle preferences from car to cloud
Cloud-initiated Feature Activation

CAN Data is encrypted, signed and stored in OEM Cloud

* Out of Scope for Current Phase: Integrated Device Management (OMA/DM or OMA LWM2M) Secure/Software Over-the-air Updates (SOTA) - Discussed 30-Jul-2018 Remote Vehicle Diagnostics - Added / discussed 30-Jul-2018 Predictive Maintenance Data Tagging in-vehicle


  • Robbie Jones - forgerock
  • Tim Laine - t-systems
  • Jose Bollo -
  • Tiejun Chen - vmware
  • Artem Mygaiev - epam
  • Somanagouda Patil - inte
  • Hisao Munakata - renesas
  • Daniel Bernal - arm
  • Andrei Shamanin -
  • Mikhail Aaytsev -
  • Leonid Lazarev -


The V2C EG Roadmap is part of the overall AGL Roadmap and can be found on this page.

Meeting Notes


Call cancelled due to local wildfires


Introduced the VW guys to the team


No one dialed in so call disconnected at 7:39 AM PDT


  • santhosh babu @ ford motor

Welcome Santosh from Ford Motor Company! Mera Systems also discussed their web service and is actively collaborating with T-Systems (who updated us that they 'were able to get things running and only have to get our own HTML5 app communicating with' it.)


call rescheduled due to conflicts



Mera Team updated us on conversation last week with T-Systems and Azure connector; moved all future calls back by 30 minutes (new start time is 7:30 AM PDT.)



No one dialed in so call ended 6 minutes after top of the hour.



Mera shared that their azure integration (view notes from previous call below) is awaiting approval- see; they have aws prototyped; gcp a possibility.

There was a great V2C and C2V demo shown on our last call;


  • parth dode

There was a great V2C and C2V demo shown on our last call; has a recording of it. Given ForgeRock is in the Identity and Access Management space, any user_id you can easily surface/present/pass along would get my vote as the next attribute that is added to the payload in the next version of the demo.



Discussed Mera's implementation of auto telematic messages published to IotHub in Azure, and possible future work to (perhaps) do something in AWS given T-systems choice on said platform. FYI we may have a high-level demo of the former on the next team call.


Attendees: the Mera personnel referenced below.

The folks from our most-recent member Mera (Mikhail, Leonard and and Andrey) shared work they are doing re: GPS telematics pushed to a MQTT queue in Azure; moving forward those payloads and the mechanism could be generalized so that it could be published to any cloud vendor. This seems like a great use-case for this working group thus it has been added to the UCs listed above.


No one dialed in (perhaps due to day-light savings time-zone change in US) so call cancelled 6 minutes after the hour


Call postponed due to RSA trade show


Call postponed due to EMEA travel


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock

Welcomed Scott to this 'party line'; waited for Tim to join to get more details on their SSI/DID framework selection; topic of conversation tabled until our next call on 1.27.20


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock

Briefly discussed Decentralized Identity for T-system's parking demo. Hopefully we can discuss the details of their solution when we reconvene after the holidays on January 13th.


==No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT


==No call given F2F meetings in Monte Carlo


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock


  • getting 'more information' on the Self Sovereign ID platform that T-systems will use in their ongoing parking payment demo (possibly shown at CES 2020). Drivers license verification can be leveraged in said platform.
  • having a F2F meeting in Monte Carlo at the AGL Monte Carlo conference later this month
  • (given that last point) cancelling the call for 10.21.19 (or 12.10.19 depending on your locale)


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):

No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT


call cancelled due to scheduling conflicts


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):

No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • Tim Laine, Lorenz, Marius
  • Aymeric, Fulup, Jose, Loic @
  • Discussed T-Systems upcoming Parking payment demo; discussed if parts of our collective past IdM demo (the NFC tag demo shown at CES '19) can be leveraged for said demo
  • Retrieving user attributes from the IdM could be interesting to show for a payment demo


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • Discussed T-Systems upcoming Parking payment demo (possibly shown at the next AGL conference)
  • Robbie to ping to see if parts of their past IdM work can be leveraged for said demo

1 July-2019

Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • Jan-Simon Möller
  • Update: T-Systems is working on an upcoming Car Share and Parking payment demo
  • Given the maturity of this demo, we have moved it up in the U.C. list above.


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • Reviewed charter/mandate of the group for new members
  • Recapped work thus far on Business and Technical UCs
  • Concluded that we should look at the work in the Connectivity EG given common synergies


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • Introductions
  • Further discussions on prioritizing the existing bulleted items under the Business Use Cases (see in order to get a shorter, conciser list. Said list is now updated given feedback from this call but is considered a 'living document' (Work In Progress).
  • Specific discussions on the call: a. how do we 'enable GDPR compliance' and b. added car rental
  • Goal is to have said list 'ratified' before next general AGL meeting.


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • robbie.jones@forgerock
  • (call-in dialler #1)


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Ashley Stevenson (ForgeRock)
  • Daniel Bernal (ARM)
  • B
  • C
  • Discussion Point #1
  • Discussion Point #2


  • Discussed Business use case prioritization with Walt, who will present to Advisory Board and other members for feedback
  • Discussed creation of a V2C EG White Paper using the new Confluence site
  • Discussed AECC


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Ashley Stevenson
  • Michael Tworek
  • Tiejun Chen
  • Walt Miner
Discussion Topics
  • Reviewed business use case candidate list with Walt - feedback that SOTA, while technically V2C, has been well covered in other areas; also that GDPR (Privacy / Compliance) was a topic of interest during a recent Advisory Board meeting
  • Reviewed some other business use cases from MOBI initiative ( provided by Michael Tworek; will review and cross-reference with existing use cases
  • Once consolidated, we will provide the list of business use cases for Walt to circulate to get community feedback on prioritization
  • Moved “Shared Data Management” down to technical use cases, as its an underpinning technical theme that supports many business use cases, rather than a business use case unto itself


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Rafal Garbat
  • Tiejun Chen
  • Ashley Stevenson
  • Jan-Simon Moeller
  • Hiroto Imamura
Discussion Topics
  • Attendees agreed to keep minutes and notes on this wiki page
  • Discussed the need for cloud-side integrations for V2C use cases, which is a relatively new angle for existing apps and demos that do not necessarily depend on external integration with cloud apps to demonstrate use case
  • Discussed OTA updates as one example
  • Discussed some intersections with Connectivity EG, but per Jan-Simon, this EG mostly focused on Wifi, Bluetooth, etc.
  • Hiroto suggested we survey OEM AGL members to determine their top V2C use cases
  • Rafal mentioned how most vehicle data today is OEM-specific
  • Ashley mentioned looking to other standards bodies, like CCC for V2C use cases
  • Rafal suggested considering 5G impact on V2C use cases
  • Team agreed to create a simple slide deck with suggested use cases and circulate to SAT, then to broader AGL members, including Advisory Board


Attendees (taken from GoToMeeting):
  • Archans
  • Ashley Stevenson
  • Daniel Bernal
  • Fulup-IotBzh
  • Harunobu Kurokawa
  • Hiroto Imamura
  • José Bollo [Iot.Bzh]
  • Michael Tworek
  • Pushpavati
  • Rafal Garbat
  • Tiejun Chen
  • Walt Miner
  • Léonard Moustacchis
Discussion Topics
  • EG Team Objectives
  • Use Case Candidates (Business and Technical)
  • Application Candidates
  • Discussed intersections with and evolving meaning of “Telematics”

Tokyo F2F Meeting Attendees - 2018-02-22

  • Ashley Stevenson - ForgeRock
  • Daniel Bernal - Arm
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Takuo Koguchi - Hitachi
  • Artem Mygaiev - EPAM -
  • Hisao Munakata - Renesas
eg-v2c.txt · Last modified: 2020/08/22 00:17 by jonesrobbie