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Bi-weekly on Mondays. The upcoming schedule can be found on the project calendar.

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Meetings agenda and report can be found on Confluence

• Collect and prioritize use cases
• Define Reference Architecture
• Identify existing, missing or reusable components
• Identify and document reference applications
• Identify and document any AGL framework gaps
• Recruit volunteers to build out initial demonstration(s)

Payments

 Sharing, Parking, Petro/Charging, Traffic

Enable “Right to be Forgotten”/Privacy and Consent in a data driven ecosystem economy

 In-Vehicle Personalization
 Usage-based Insurance
 Vehicle/Ride Sharing/Car Rental

Tracking

 Asset management
 Cargo tracking

Telematics Integration

 GPS telematics pushed to a MQTT queue in the cloud
 OEM Data integration / management
 User Data Privacy Management

Authentication

 User-to-Vehicle 
 Vehicle-to-Cloud
 Trusted Vehicle Identities

Shared Data Management

 Third Party usage & access
 Data Encryption & Signing

Connectivity

 LTE/5G connectivity 
 QOS

Authenticate to third-party subscription service

Save Vehicle preferences from car to cloud
Cloud-initiated Feature Activation

CAN Data is encrypted, signed and stored in OEM Cloud

* Out of Scope for Current Phase: Integrated Device Management (OMA/DM or OMA LWM2M) Secure/Software Over-the-air Updates (SOTA) - Discussed 30-Jul-2018 Remote Vehicle Diagnostics - Added / discussed 30-Jul-2018 Predictive Maintenance Data Tagging in-vehicle

• Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
• James Simon - AWS
• Nenad Illic - AWS
• Megan Knight AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko

The V2C EG Roadmap is part of the overall AGL Roadmap and can be found on this page.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Megan Knight - AWS
• Nenad Illic - AWS

• https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/display/VTCEG/MQTT+Client+for+kuksa.val+and+AWS+IoT%3A+Project+Specification –> this was reviewed as a starting point.These are the current Fleetwise demo signals.
• By next meeting Scott will see which of these can map to VSS.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Megan Knight - AWS
• Nenad Illic - AWS

• Confluence updated with task breakdown
• Assigning of tasks and determining of signals discussed.
• Do we have a list of signals our customers are asking for? We can ask internally as well.
• What does our current Fleetwise demo push up? Speed, acceleration, break pedal pressure, etc. Nenad can send these signals to the group.
• By next meeting we will provide next signals -

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• James Simon - AWS
• Megan Knight - AWS
• Nenad Illic - AWS
• Harunobu Kurokawa - Renesas

Agenda: + Redefined Scope - review with group + COVESA response + kuksa.val questions + SOW timeline based on redefined scope

* Scott says it would be a COVESA specification. GM is jumping into Eclipse SDV - story could be changing. Some things will pump back into VSS. Not clear how we would do the compliance as they don't have a story of what that would look like today. There is not implementation of uProtocol stuff - no one has signed up to use it other than GM. They are working towards implementation in the next few months - we don't know usability/applicability. * If we want something in the next 6 months, some form of simple VSS payload and MQTT would be acceptable and simple to build. Would it stand the test of time though? * We may have to be okay throwing it away if other standards take off more successfully than this one. Nenad and Megan want to make sure we are laying the groundwork for iteration without walking through a one-way door, if possible. * We will focus on creating something concrete and accept it will change a year from now. Many of the things floating around the space currently are all ideas with little supporting code. * Consensus on Nenad's approach / Definition of Done. We need to make the conversation happen through implementation. * Worked through Nenad's document that includes Definition of Done / Functional Requirements / Non-Functional Requirements * Strongly prefer to not use JSON * Focus on MQTT version 5

Next steps: * task breakdown + allocation * need to look at timeline

s4 starter kit to show connectivity in-vehicle and possibly extend to V2C stuff - within Green Machine. This body of work is not dependent on specific hardware - S4 is only needed for green machine.

Deliverable of Nenad being able to do the cloud side - would need to get him something well before April 1; Maybe March 1?

If we had in-vehicle part ready by march 15, does that give Nenad enough time to do the cloud stuff?

Open source credits won't expire in this time frame. Contractor dollars - as long as we have something rolling, we can roll funding over.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• James Simon - AWS
• Megan Knight - AWS
• Nenad Illic - AWS

• Nenad taking ownership of the project on the AWS side.
• James committed gerrit 29240 and 29239. Nenad has been reviewing these commits. Wants to talk to James about what his intentions were and how we can improve what is there.
• Talked about options for external collaboration on the protocol specification. Possibilities include VSS (COVESA) and building something on top of it and uProtocol, the SDV/ GM project.
• Scott will send an introduction of Nenad and Megan to Sebastian and the VSS people.
• Jan-Simon trying to acquire S4SK boards for AGL and AWS, but we keep running into roadblocks. Would like to use the S4SK for an embedded world demo in April.
• Goal for next meeting:
  • Intro email from Scott to VSS
  • Nenad to research what is available in VSS
  • Document the scope and value to the customer to be reviewed during the next call.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• James Simon - AWS
• Megan Knight - AWS
• Nenad Illic - AWS

• James has code ready for gerrit and documentation. Generic message header, HVAC, location, and self-defining message set.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Yan Xinkuan - Fujitsu
• Sven Jeroschewski - Bosch
• Lukas Römer - Bosch

• Walt starting on SOW for V2C work
• KUKSA.val databroker recipe was merged to master. Nothing using it yet. Scott will get the Qt apps changed to use it for Pike M2.
• Yan's project was approved internally. A major update will be provided during the AMM.

Previous

• Working on HVAC implementation using VSS object model.
• Trying to get more feedback from Wireless Car and Aicas.
• Walt still working on getting Mercedes to contribute their Comfort API
• Sven pointed out Eclipse Leda incubation project for Azure connector to Cloud. https://github.com/eclipse-leda/leda-contrib-cloud-connector
• Meta-leda recipes https://github.com/eclipse-leda/meta-leda/tree/main/meta-leda-components/recipes-sdv/eclipse-kuksa

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Kurokawa-san - Renesas

• KUKSA.val 0.3.1 merged on master. Cherry picked to Octopus.
• Rust mix-in layer merged on master
• Walt starting on SOW for V2C work

Previous

• Working on HVAC implementation using VSS object model.
• Trying to get more feedback from Wireless Car and Aicas.
• Walt still working on getting Mercedes to contribute their Comfort API
• Sven pointed out Eclipse Leda incubation project for Azure connector to Cloud. https://github.com/eclipse-leda/leda-contrib-cloud-connector
• Meta-leda recipes https://github.com/eclipse-leda/meta-leda/tree/main/meta-leda-components/recipes-sdv/eclipse-kuksa

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• James Simon- AWS
• Sven Jeroschewski - Bosch

• James will send estimated hours for contractors to complete V2C tasks later today.
• Working on HVAC implementation using VSS object model.
• Trying to get more feedback from Wireless Car and Aicas.
• Walt still working on getting Mercedes to contribute their Comfort API
• Sven pointed out Eclipse Leda incubation project for Azure connector to Cloud. https://github.com/eclipse-leda/leda-contrib-cloud-connector
• Meta-leda recipes https://github.com/eclipse-leda/meta-leda/tree/main/meta-leda-components/recipes-sdv/eclipse-kuksa

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• James Simon- AWS
• Nenad Ilic - AWS
• Harunobu Kurokawa - Rensas
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon
• Details from James presented to AB and ALS last week
  • Detailed for secure connection and provisioning for vehicle todesigns cloud communication with MQTT
  • Detailed flow diagrams for common vehicle messaging MQTT Request/Response Patterns with error handling and resilience mechanisms
  • General Guidance on using MQTT 5 and proper topic design
  • VSS Compliant Protocol Buffer message schemas for all of the most common vehicle communication use cases (Data Collection, configuration, remote diagnostics, remote commands etc…) Along with detailed designs for topics and message orchestration
  • GRPC Schemas for MEC (Wavelength) communication
  • Reference implementation code for Proto Messages and GRPC

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• James Simon- AWS
• Nenad Ilic - AWS
• Harunobu Kurokawa - Rensas
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon - James suggested creating a reference V2C architecture with sequence diagrams, protocols buffer files, patterns, build system, reference implementations for cloud and vehicle clients. Timeline would be implementation in March with a white paper. James would like include some FMEA documentation as well so we analyze corner cases and error cases.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• James Simon- AWS
• Nenad Ilic - AWS
• Harunobu Kurokawa - Rensas
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon - James Simon introduced himself as the new AWS person taking on AGL V2C activities.
  • Nenad getting no response from NXP about getting the Goldbox into AGL CI. Need their plan for getting a kirkstone version of the BSP
  • James will get in touch with AICAS about re-engaging with AGL

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Nenad Ilic - AWS
• Harunobu Kurokawa - Rensas
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon - Nenad got stuck in Serbia so Richard attended. The AWS who will be working on identity management will be starting on it after Labor Day (commitment is about 10 hours per week.)
• Will work with NXP to get the Goldbox BSP into AGL CI. Nenad will send the current layer they are using to NXP.
  • 7/25
    • Nenad will ping the NXP team to get an update on their plans to support kirkstone.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Nenad Ilic - AWS
• Harunobu Kurokawa - Rensas
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon - Continuing to evolve the demo. Nenad will be looking at VirtIO and participating in the Wednesday calls going forward.
• Will work with NXP to get the Goldbox BSP into AGL CI. Nenad will send the current layer they are using to NXP.
  • 7/25
    • Nenad will ping the NXP team to get an update on their plans to support kirkstone.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Nenad Ilic - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon - AWS demo at Embedded World looked good. Nenad reported that they got good feedback on their demo which will continue to evolve.
• Will work with NXP to get the Goldbox BSP into AGL CI. Nenad will send the current layer they are using to NXP.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Amazon - Amazon switched to the Gold Box for the demo. Scott pointed out that there is a Yocto layer at Code Aurora (meta-alb) that might be usable. Richard has someone taking over this meeting for him starting week 19.
• Cancel the next meeting due to Easter Monday
• Richard worked through the “Identity Management for V2C” feature with one of his engineers who has experience with OEMs in delivering payloads from server to the ECUs via the TCU. They will be writing up the requirements from their white boarding and add them to the confluence page.
  • On-track for the EW demo
  • Haydn will add Containers features to the feature list. V2C features are good as-is.
• AICAS - urgent customer programs taking priority over the demo work lately.
• Scott got the Telematics image building and booting for the Marlin release. The recorder application does not work. Plans to get the working with kuksa.val.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• Amazon - Richard worked through the “Identity Management for V2C” feature with one of his engineers who has experience with OEMs in delivering payloads from server to the ECUs via the TCU. They will be writing up the requirements from their white boarding and add them to the confluence page.
  • On-track for the EW demo
  • Haydn will add Containers features to the feature list. V2C features are good as-is.
• AICAS - urgent customer programs taking priority over the demo work lately.
• Scott indicated that is likely he will get the existing Telematics working this week on Marlin.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• Richard will be meeting with Haydn this week about the roadmap for V2C and Containers and Mesh EGs and will be in Germany in two weeks to work on the demo for Embedded World.
• Damiano - Aicas continues to work on integrating connection manager into the reference design.
• Paul - SanCloud has decided on their architecture for the demo. They will use a local Mosquitto broker. Will try to open source their app, but they are working with a partner that they need to clear this with,
• Scott working on getting telematics image building for Marlin M3. Will see for tomorrow. Got kuksa.val building and tested it with getting speed into the apps as a replacement for Signal Composer. Will try to get the recipe into M3 as well.
• Link to Intelligent Transport Systems Standards book on Amazon

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• SanCloud making progress with the platform
  • thinking about a presentation in following weeks , possibly EW .

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• Aicas looking at connection manager and internally discussing the possibility of contributing a demo to AGL.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• AICAS - working on making their application into a service that their data center can use to make the best connection.
• SanCloud - working on BSP updates for TI and BBE enhanced. Should be ready for Marlin.
• Richard - AWS IoT Express Link and AWS IoT Fleetwise. These will be demoed in the Embedded World AGL booth running AGL on a couple of boards. The cellular module is the Sera R5 Starter kit

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• Richard is traveling again this week.
• Paul's first day back so nothing to report.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Chih-Ming - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• Paul - No major update. Looking to make an update after the new year.
• Damiano: Damiano and Chih-Ming gave a presentation and demo. Damiano will upload the slides to confluence.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Sachin Gole - FEV

• Damiano: Chi-Ming still working on connector, should be showing some progress to Damiano in the next few days. Damiano will present what they have working at the next meeting.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS

• Paul: SanCloud has been looking at the latest changes on master with App FW deprecated because they want to make sure that they are not doing things that require a lot of rework later. Working on mosquito MQTT. Access to CAN is their biggest concern right now.
• Domiano: Chi-Ming working on connector.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Richard Elberger - AWS

• Paul: Working on getting their device cert working to get their connection to the cloud. Progress being made toward their cloud platform side.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Damiano Senese - AICAS

• Damiano: continuing integration. Working on Connection Manager implementation and CAN simulation.
• Paul: SanCloud making progress no their AGL telematics demo.

Attendees:

• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Sergio Rojas

• Richard: HW update - TI released a smaller form factor Jacinto board
  • https://www.ti.com/tool/SK-TDA4VM
  • Scott asks about BSP
• Damiano: continuing integration
  • sample from the demo: https://git.automotivelinux.org/AGL/meta-agl-demo/tree/recipes-demo/simple-can-simulator/files/simple_can_simulator.py

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Richard had no update - could not make the meeting.
• AICAS and SanCloud making progress.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• Richard had no update.
• AICAS successfully integrated the 5g module and started some initial testing.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes
• Bernard Craddock - Pumped Fuel

• AICAS has switched their work to use Raspberry Pi 4 and has started on their work. They will be incorporating a Waveshare 5g module. Damiano will update the Confluence page with the hardware set up.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko
• Christian Guimaraes - Mercedes

• AICAS is waiting for hardware to arrive, but has started some preparatory work.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Paul Barker - SanCloud
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko

• AICAS and SanCloud provided some updates on their plans for reference apps.
  • AICAS has the approval to go ahead with the work. Hardware is planned to be https://www.axotec.de/en/products/ip67-industrial-iot-gateway-mit-4g-lte-can-rs485-gpio/ip67-iot-gateway-with-4g-lte-ipx-860.html
• Richard brought up that there may be regulatory issues around using VIN number as the vehicle identifier in Europe due to GDPR. Will be doing a deep dive into the issues around that and what options we have to do something else.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Scott Murray - Konsulko

• No updates from AICAS. They are discussing internally and working on getting management approval to proceed.

Attendees:

• SC ranked “Identity Management for Vehicle to Cloud”
  • Scoping needed
    • OEM (VIN), Fleet, Maintainance
    • vs
    • User data, Preferences
  • VIN vs TPM of telematics device discussion,
    • Unique ID instead of VIN (see after market use case)
      • asset identifyer
      • asset type
      • attestation
  • Richard will add scope to confluence for next SC call
  • Paul: made some progress on the server side of things. Working on network boot with u-boot.
  • Richard: likely need to fall-back to J7 (TDA4 & DRA8 , J721EXCP01EVM)
    • need to check support in-tree/meta-ti - need j7-evm (AI JSM: add simple machine templates)

Attendees:

• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Michael Reimann - AICAS
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Paul Barker - Konsulko
• Scott Murray - Konsulko

• Mark and Paul added for Sancloud reference design #3 in confluence
• Skip call of May 3rd, next call is May 17th
• Next steps:
  • SC update expected for next call
  • Note the schedule for AGL v12.0.0

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Michael Reimann - AICAS
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS
• Paul Barker - Konsulko
• Scott Murray - Konsulko

• AICAS added a storyboard for reference design #2 in confluence.
• Paul talked about the using Sancloud and Thingsboard for reference design #3.
• Michael mentioned that the JamicaEG is a custom extended version of Thingsboard.
• BBE Cape https://www.sancloud.co.uk/automotive-cape-launch-at-ces/

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon Moeller - LF
• Michael Reimann - AICAS
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS

• Richard updated the confluence page with more information on use cases and a story board for Telematics demo #1
• AICAS will work on a story board for demo #2 for the next meeting.
• Richard met with Quectel about their 5G board. They will be joining the AMM next week.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Norbert Steinhauser - AICAS
• Michael Reimann - AICAS
• Chih-Ming Hsieh - AICAS
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Richard Elberger - AWS

• Continued to discuss the use cases. Richard mentioned working backwards from the customer's expectations.
  • Who is the customer?
  • AICAS is a Tier 2 working with OEMs and Tier 1s to get their technology into vehicle systems. Enable 3rd parties to bring their applications in vehicle.
  • AGL git mirror https://git.automotivelinux.org
• Richard is getting a 5G Quectel eval board in the next month. Discussed the challenges around connectivity and multiple connections.

Attendees:

• Walt Miner - LF
• Jan-Simon - LF
• Norbert Steinhauser - AICAS
• Michael Reimann - AICAS
• Chih-Ming Hsieh - AICAS
• Damiano Senese - AICAS
• Abraham - Independent developer in San Diego
• Richard Elberger - AWS

• Spent time on introductions
• Last year MERA contributed plug-ins for Microsoft Azure and AWS.
• AICAS reviewed how their product might use AGL
• Richard: Let's define a goal for the end of 2021.
  • Propose three different reference designs for telematics by the end of the year.
    • TCU with AICAS connected TBD
    • TCU with TBD
    • TCU with TBD
  • Factor in the use of private data centers (e.g. Onstar) in the reference design
• Created a V2C EG Confluence page to document the ideas for reference designs.

Call cancelled due to local wildfires

Introduced the VW guys to the team

No one dialed in so call disconnected at 7:39 AM PDT

• mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
• santhosh babu @ ford motor
• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

Welcome Santosh from Ford Motor Company! Mera Systems also discussed their web service and is actively collaborating with T-Systems (who updated us that they 'were able to get things running and only have to get our own HTML5 app communicating with' it.)

call rescheduled due to conflicts

• leonid.lazarev@mera.com
• mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
• robbie.jones@forgerock.com
• shankhoghosh123@gmail.com

Mera Team updated us on conversation last week with T-Systems and Azure connector; moved all future calls back by 30 minutes (new start time is 7:30 AM PDT.)

• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

No one dialed in so call ended 6 minutes after top of the hour.

• leonid.lazarev@mera.com
• mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

Mera shared that their azure integration (view notes from previous call below) is awaiting approval- see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-3351; they have aws prototyped; gcp a possibility.

There was a great V2C and C2V demo shown on our last call;

• tim.laine@t-systems.com
• andrey.shamanin@mera.com
• mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
• parth dode
• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

There was a great V2C and C2V demo shown on our last call; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOOo3pyjHVb_yVMrI_KMt4iKdAjeyWbL/view?usp=sharing has a recording of it. Given ForgeRock is in the Identity and Access Management space, any user_id you can easily surface/present/pass along would get my vote as the next attribute that is added to the payload in the next version of the demo.

• tim.laine@t-systems.com
• leonard.lazarev@mera.com
• mikahail.aaytsev@mera.com
• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

Discussed Mera's implementation of auto telematic messages published to IotHub in Azure, and possible future work to (perhaps) do something in AWS given T-systems choice on said platform. FYI we may have a high-level demo of the former on the next team call.

Attendees: the Mera personnel referenced below.

The folks from our most-recent member Mera (Mikhail, Leonard and and Andrey) shared work they are doing re: GPS telematics pushed to a MQTT queue in Azure; moving forward those payloads and the mechanism could be generalized so that it could be published to any cloud vendor. This seems like a great use-case for this working group thus it has been added to the UCs listed above.

No one dialed in (perhaps due to day-light savings time-zone change in US) so call cancelled 6 minutes after the hour

Call postponed due to RSA trade show

Call postponed due to EMEA travel

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• scott.murray@konsulko.com

Welcomed Scott to this 'party line'; waited for Tim to join to get more details on their SSI/DID framework selection; topic of conversation tabled until our next call on 1.27.20

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• wminer@linuxfoundation.org
• jose.bollo@iot.bzh
• cminyard@mvista.com

Briefly discussed Decentralized Identity for T-system's parking demo. Hopefully we can discuss the details of their solution when we reconvene after the holidays on January 13th.

==No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT

==No call given F2F meetings in Monte Carlo

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• tim.laine@t-systems.com
• wminer@linuxfoundation.org
• jose.bollo@iot.bzh

Discussed:

• getting 'more information' on the Self Sovereign ID platform that T-systems will use in their ongoing parking payment demo (possibly shown at CES 2020). Drivers license verification can be leveraged in said platform.
• having a F2F meeting in Monte Carlo at the AGL Monte Carlo conference later this month
• (given that last point) cancelling the call for 10.21.19 (or 12.10.19 depending on your locale)

• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT

call cancelled due to scheduling conflicts

• robbie.jones@forgerock.com

No one else dialed in so call ended at 7:05 AM PDT

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• Tim Laine, Lorenz, Marius @t-systems.com
• Aymeric, Fulup, Jose, Loic @ iot.bzh

• Discussed T-Systems upcoming Parking payment demo; discussed if parts of our collective past IdM demo (the NFC tag demo shown at CES '19) can be leveraged for said demo
• Retrieving user attributes from the IdM could be interesting to show for a payment demo

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• tim.laine@t-systems.com

• Discussed T-Systems upcoming Parking payment demo (possibly shown at the next AGL conference)
• Robbie to ping iot.bzh to see if parts of their past IdM work can be leveraged for said demo

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• tim.laine@t-systems.com
• Jan-Simon Möller

• Update: T-Systems is working on an upcoming Car Share and Parking payment demo
• Given the maturity of this demo, we have moved it up in the U.C. list above.

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• muthuganesan.muthiah@panasonicautomotive.com
• wminer@linuxfoundation.org
• jsmoeller@linuxfoundation.org

• Reviewed charter/mandate of the group for new members
• Recapped work thus far on Business and Technical UCs
• Concluded that we should look at the work in the Connectivity EG given common synergies

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• aymeric.aillet@iot.bzh
• jose.bollo@iot.bzh
• tim.laine@t-systems.com
• wminer@linuxfoundation.org

• Introductions
• Further discussions on prioritizing the existing bulleted items under the Business Use Cases (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/doku.php?id=eg-v2c#business_use_case_candidates) in order to get a shorter, conciser list. Said list is now updated given feedback from this call but is considered a 'living document' (Work In Progress).
• Specific discussions on the call: a. how do we 'enable GDPR compliance' and b. added car rental
• Goal is to have said list 'ratified' before next general AGL meeting.

• robbie.jones@forgerock
• aymeric.aillet@iot.bzh
• johan.cahier@iot.bzh
• (call-in dialler #1)

• Introductions
• Discussed prioritizing (and revisiting) the 15 bulleted items under the Business Use Cases (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/doku.php?id=eg-v2c#business_use_case_candidates) in order to get a shorter, conciser list
• Goal is to have said list 'ratified' before next general AGL meeting.

• Ashley Stevenson (ForgeRock)
• Daniel Bernal (ARM)
• B
• C

• Discussion Point #1
• Discussion Point #2

• Discussed Business use case prioritization with Walt, who will present to Advisory Board and other members for feedback
• Discussed creation of a V2C EG White Paper using the new Confluence site
• Discussed AECC

• Ashley Stevenson
• Michael Tworek
• Tiejun Chen
• Walt Miner

• Reviewed business use case candidate list with Walt - feedback that SOTA, while technically V2C, has been well covered in other areas; also that GDPR (Privacy / Compliance) was a topic of interest during a recent Advisory Board meeting
• Reviewed some other business use cases from MOBI initiative (https://www.dlt.mobi/) provided by Michael Tworek; will review and cross-reference with existing use cases
• Once consolidated, we will provide the list of business use cases for Walt to circulate to get community feedback on prioritization
• Moved “Shared Data Management” down to technical use cases, as its an underpinning technical theme that supports many business use cases, rather than a business use case unto itself

• Rafal Garbat
• Tiejun Chen
• Ashley Stevenson
• Jan-Simon Moeller
• Hiroto Imamura

• Attendees agreed to keep minutes and notes on this wiki page
• Discussed the need for cloud-side integrations for V2C use cases, which is a relatively new angle for existing apps and demos that do not necessarily depend on external integration with cloud apps to demonstrate use case
• Discussed OTA updates as one example
• Discussed some intersections with Connectivity EG, but per Jan-Simon, this EG mostly focused on Wifi, Bluetooth, etc.
• Hiroto suggested we survey OEM AGL members to determine their top V2C use cases
• Rafal mentioned how most vehicle data today is OEM-specific
• Ashley mentioned looking to other standards bodies, like CCC for V2C use cases
• Rafal suggested considering 5G impact on V2C use cases
• Team agreed to create a simple slide deck with suggested use cases and circulate to SAT, then to broader AGL members, including Advisory Board

• Archans
• Ashley Stevenson
• Daniel Bernal
• Fulup-IotBzh
• Harunobu Kurokawa
• Hiroto Imamura
• José Bollo [Iot.Bzh]
• Michael Tworek
• Pushpavati
• Rafal Garbat
• Tiejun Chen
• Walt Miner
• Léonard Moustacchis

• EG Team Objectives
• Use Case Candidates (Business and Technical)
• Application Candidates
• Discussed intersections with and evolving meaning of “Telematics”

• Ashley Stevenson - ForgeRock
• Daniel Bernal - Arm
• Joel Catala - Tuxera
• Takuo Koguchi - Hitachi
• Artem Mygaiev - EPAM - artem_mygaiev@epam.com
• Hisao Munakata - Renesas