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We are holding a face to face meeting from September 24-26 at the Carmeq GmbH office in Berlin. The main purpose of the meeting is to finalize the Audio, Window Manager, Home Screen, Graphics, UI, and App Framework architecture discussions and have a blueprint for completing the work in 2019.

DATE: September 24 - 26, 2019
Time: 9:00 am - 6:00 pm

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Carmeq+GmbH,+Aussenstelle+Salzufer/@52.5166999,13.3248932,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a851930c4ab3d1:0x8ace7096016a43f6!8m2!3d52.5166999!4d13.3270819

There are many hotels available in Berlin. There is not anything particularly close to the venue so pick a hotel based on your preferences.

Current agenda is also available in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BeurL_S80gtgJ1jt9azngbC6DwYFBh4m_asBCgNBXAI/edit?usp=sharing. The Google Sheets version should be considered the official version.

Video Conference

9:00 - 9:30 Introductions, Agenda Review, and Logistics (All Participants)

9:30 - 10:30 - Navi EG update and plans

• Slides presented by Micware
• Discussed changing the interface to the Navi binding from DBUS to AGL Web Framework since DBUS is becoming unusable as an interface.
• Next week there is a Navi EG F2F meeting in Japan to further discuss the architecture
• Scott will provide a proposal for verbs in the next week.
• Will discuss at next SAT meeting in two weeks
• Can meet F2F in Japan in November at CES Integration session

10:30 - 11:00 - Break

11:00 - 12:30 - Window Manager and Compositor

• Slides from Daniel
• https://gitlab.collabora.com/agl/weston/tree/scott-ivi-compositor announced from George in UI&G EG call.

12:30 - 13:30 - Lunch

13:30 - 15:00 - Window Manager and Compositor

• Slides from ADIT Naoko Tanibata

TODO

• Put waltham backend codes for review (maybe sandbox on AGL?)
• Create confluence page for waltham backend to gather requirements - Created
• Continue discussion to realize multi-backends support in weston

15:00 - 16:00 - Weekly Developer Call (use dev call Zoom and not the Room 1 Zoom)

16:00 - 16:30 - Break

16:30 - 18:15 - Web App Manager and Browser

• Slides from Lorenzo

Video Conference

9:30 - 10:30 - Audio and PipeWire Architecture Review

• Question: why pipewire, history
• George gives overview on pipewire
  • pipewire-f2f-sep2019.odp
  • tokyo-als-pipewire-july-2019.pdf
• George presents the current status and work being done.
• Discussion about how to add hw→hw stream representation in PW
• uprev until mid-october on master, fixing issues there
• consolidated update of halibut before integration session in nov

TODO's and timeline

• Mid October
  • pw uprev
  • Bluetooth
  • audiomixer API changes

• before mid November (Integration Sessions)
  • configuration files
  • policies

Integration sessions

• September
  • Karlsruhe 30 +1
• November
  • Karlsruhe 11 - 13
  • Yokohama 12 - 14
• December
  • LF HQ (SFO) 10-12

10:30 - 11:00 - Break

11:00 - 12:30 - Audio and PipeWire Architecture Review

12:30 - 13:30 - Lunch

13:30 - 15:00 - Audio and PipeWire Architecture Review

15:00 - 16:00 - Open

16:00 - 16:30 - Break

16:30 - 18:30 - Speech Updates

• CES 2020 AGL HVAC demo idea from Kusakabe

Video Conference

9:00 - 10:30 - Instrument Cluster EG Update (Scope and Charter Review)

https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/display/IC/Document+storage

• Haraki-San reviewed the IC EG charter and schedule
• HUD is included in the IC EG charter.
• SanCloud will show a proposal for HUD during tomorrow's session.
• Slide 10 - release schedule
  • What is the “II - Child Release”?
    • AGL should continue on the current twice per year release schedule with Yocto uprev at the beginning of the year.
    • There may an interim release for IC, but it will not be a new release branch. For example, Itchy Icefish 9.1.0 could add IC features not in 9.0.x.
• Slide 11 - “Relationship between Low Spec AGL and High Spec AGL”
  • High Spec AGL and Low Spec AGL have different core images with some layers/ components in common between them.
  • There is no branching used to separate the two levels.
  • It is assumed that the high spec AGL will require more frequent updates than the low spec version and will require more frequent patch releases. This is ok.

10:30 - 11:00 - Break

11:00 - 12:00 - CES 2020

• #3 demo plan from IC-EG

12:00 - 13:00 - Lunch

13:00 - 15:00 -App Framework and Security Topics

• Review the latest VW proposal to W3C for Viwi User Authentication and Authorization
• Enhancing User Management presentation
• Token Logic Access Control presentation

15:00 - 16:00 - App Framework and Security EG (Conference Call)

16:00 - 16:30 Break

16:30 - 18:00 - Speech EG

16:30 - 18:00 - Connectivity EG and CAN

Video Conference

9:00 - 10:30 - Open

10:30 - 11:00 - Break

11:00 - 12:00 - Open

12:00 - 13:00 - Lunch

13:00 - 15:00 - API Gap Analysis and Tuner API updates

Radio API review

• Sample API of Denso Ten released in staging/documents
• Goal is to refine the radio api with additional functions found in the review of above
  • focus on generic calls over hw specifics
• Scott Murray will review the documents and make a proposal for extending the radio api
  • for review in the connectivity call and during AMM
• Lateron a definition is needed how the interface to the various implementations (hw+driver) can be done

15:00 - 16:00 - Open

16:00 - 16:30 Break

16:30 - 18:00 - Connectivity EG and CAN

Video Conference

9:00- 10:30 - IC EG Arch. Review

https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/display/IC/Document+storage

10:30 - 11:00 - Break

11:00 - 11:30 - IC EG Arch. Review

11:30 - 12:00 - Virtualization EG Update

12:00 - 13:00 - Lunch

13:00 - 15:00 - Telematics

• Telematics multi-phone use case analysis presented by Scott

15:00 - 16:00 - System Architecture Team Meeting

16:00 - 16:30 Break

16:30 - 17:30 - Toyota Code drop

• about toyota codeagl_f2f_20190926_r2.pdf
• feature overview(draft)basesystem_features_20190926_draft_.pdf

17:30 - 18:30 - System Spec 2.0 (will start immediately after code drop discussion)

Video Conference

9:00 - 10:30 - LTS for AGL

• AI: identify base services
• lifecycle
  • apps vs platform
• API definition & documentation & Schema
  • AI: iot.bzh will follow-up on https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1903
  • e.g. what about new things like: https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/docs/+/ea2fce2874556205204d3ef70c60e25074dc7ffd/development/languages/fidl/tutorial.md
  • Follow-up on SAT
• API versions
  • → APPFW / Jose

• 'core' LTS vs. IVI or Cluster LTS
  • depends on changes required e.g. by IC

10:30 - 11:00 - Break

11:00 - 12:00 - AGL Hackfest

12:00 - 13:00 - Lunch

13:30 - 15:00 - AGL Hackfest

15:00 - 16:00 - AGL Hackfest

16:00 - 16:30 Break

16:30 - 17:30 - AGL Hackfest

17:30 - 18:30 - AGL Hackfest

Topics:

• RHSA Update and approval of RFQ
• IC EG Update
  • Presentation for EG scope (Wednesday 9:00-10:00)
  • Arch. Review (Thursday 9:00-12:00)
    • These candidate time is easy to join from japan.

• Window Manager update
  • Plans for compositor as well as window manager
  • Waltham upstream plan from ADIT

• Audio update
• Speech update and possible integration session
• Video update
• Web App Manager and Browser
• Migration of QML Apps to HTML5 apps
• CES 2020 plan
• System Spec 2.0
• Telematics
  • Usage of Connman for telematics use cases
    • Investigation by Scott and Matt into feasibility of using Connman
    • Current implementation ideas from Tier One members
• App FW and Security topics (Wednesday afternoon)
  • Resource protection using tokens
  • Gather further multi-user requirements from OEMs
  • App store requirements and implementation
  • SPEC-2538 - do we allow multiple versions of the same widget to be installed or just the latest? Current App FW allows multiple versions to be installed.
  • Cyanara replacement
  • security ↔ pipewire / audio permissions
• API Gap analysis discussion
  • Further gap analyses performed?

Tuner and radio API

• NAVI-EG update and plans

TROFEO

7:00 pm at The Classic Remise, http://remise.de/Classic-Remise-Berlin-english-summary.php

Venue Location:

Wiebestrasse 36-37
10553 Berlin

7:00 pm at Weihenstephaner am Hackeschen Markt https://weihenstephaner-berlin.de/?lang=en

Venue Location:

Neue Promenade 5
10178 Berlin

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In-Person

1. Walt Miner - The Linux Foundation
2. Jan-Simon Moeller - The Linux Foundation
3. Dan Cauchy - The Linux Foundation
4. Yuichi Kusakabe - DENSO TEN
5. Scott Murray - Konsulko Group
6. Harunobu Kurokawa - Renesas
7. Changhyeok Bae - MBition
8. Agustin Benito Bethencourt - MBition
9. Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
10. Raquel Medina - Konsulko Group
11. George Kiagiadakis - Collabora
12. Julian Bouzas - Collabora
13. Daniel Stone - Collabora
14. Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
15. José Bollo - IoT.bzh
16. Sébastien Douheret - IoT.bzh
17. Toshihisa Haraki - SUZUKI
18. Naoto Yamaguchi - AISIN-AW
19. Lorenzo Tilve - Igalia
20. Tim Laine - T-Systems (24th only)
21. Tobias Jahnke - Microchip
22. Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
23. Daniel Schmidt - Continental
24. Axel Koenig - Continental
25. Toshikazu Ohiwa - Toyota
26. Eugen Friedrich - ADIT
27. Laurent Cremmer - Carmeq
28. Benjamin Baessler - Daimler
29. Ahmad El-Hindi - Daimler
30. Oliver Hartkopp - Volkswagen AG
31. Henry Schindel - Carmeq
32. Yuta Taguchi - Panasonic
33. Kazumasa Mitsunari - Witz
34. Naoko Tanibata - ADIT
35. Takahiro Furuta - AISIN-AW
36. Mr.X - Renesas
37. Yoshihiko Komagata - Panasonic
38. Ernst Victor Prohl - MBition (Audio)
39. Toni-Tapio Nikkanen - MBition (Spec 2.0)
40. Bela Fricz - MBition (Spec 2.0)
41. Moinul Islam - MBition (App framework and Security topics)
42. Romel Torres Poleo - MBition (Speech)
43. Jens Möller - Volkswagen
44. Olaf Krieger - Volkswagen
45. Patrick Siegl - MBition (App Framework and Security)
46. Pawel Dondziak - MBition (Audio)
47. Maria Ivashchenko (Audio)
48. Harald Walter - Bosch
49. Karthik Manjunath - MBition (Instrument Cluster)
50. Oleksandr Kuziaiev - MBition (Instrument Cluster)
51. Maycon Stamboroski - MBition (Instrument Cluster)

Dial-In/ Video Conference

1. Tadashi Wakazono - Micware (web)
2. Yoshiyuki Miki - Micware (web)

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