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AGL Virtualization Expert Group (EG-VIRT) Meetings

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Meeting after July, 2020

Meeting agenda and meeting notes have been moved to the Virtualization EG Confluence in the following link https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/display/VE/Meeting+Notes

24/06/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees:

  • Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
  • Mitsuya - Panasonic
  • Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
  • Tamura - Panasonic
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
  • Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
  • Matt Spencer - ARM
  • Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
  • Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
  • Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Eva Rio - Tuxera
  • Francois Ozog - Linaro
  • Victor Duan - Linaro
  • Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
  • Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
  • Leonid Lazerev - MERA
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
  • Nao Tanibata - ADIT
  • Eugen Friedrich - ADIT
  • Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
  • Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
  • Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems
  • Parth Dode - AGL Google Summer of Code (GSoC) student
  • Jakub Luzny - AGL GSoC student
  • Daniel Stone - Collabora
  • Marius Vlad - Collabora
  • Gunnar Andersson - GENIVI
  • Stephen Lawrence - Renesas
  • Mike Holmes - Linaro

Other open action items

  • Laurent will present what VW has been working on with respect to implementing VirtIO for the next call.
  • Tuxera to provide an update on what modifications we need to do to the AGL file system for VirtIO
  • Next meeting Francois will present a roadmap update from Linaro

Next meeting Jul 8 at this same time.

10/06/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees:

  • Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
  • Mitsuya - Panasonic
  • Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
  • Tamura - Panasonic
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
  • Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
  • Matt Spencer - ARM
  • Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
  • Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
  • Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Eva Rio - Tuxera
  • Francois Ozog - Linaro
  • Victor Duan - Linaro
  • Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
  • Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
  • Leonid Lazerev - MERA
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
  • Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
  • Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
  • Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems
  • Parth Dode - AGL Google Summer of Code (GSoC) student
  • Jakub Luzny - AGL GSoC student
  • Azzedine Touzni - Qualcomm
  • Stephane Desneux - IoT.bzh

Azzedine gave a presentation on the work Qualcomm has been doing in hardware virtualization

Other open action items

  • Walt will create a Confluence Space and send out the link to the mail list.
  • Laurent will present what VW has been working on with respect to implementing VirtIO for the next call.
  • Tuxera to provide an update on what modifications we need to do to the AGL file system for VirtIO
  • Next call - Daniel Stone of Collabora will give a presentation of what they have working on with VirtIO for some of their customers.

* Next meeting June 24 at this same time.

27/05/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees:

  • Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
  • Mitsuya - Panasonic
  • Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
  • Tamura - Panasonic
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
  • Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
  • Matt Spencer - ARM
  • Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
  • Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
  • Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Eva Rio - Tuxera
  • Francois Ozog - Linaro
  • Victor Duan - Linaro
  • Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
  • Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
  • Leonid Lazerev - MERA
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
  • Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
  • Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
  • Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems
  • Parth Dode - AGL Google Summer of Code (GSoC) student
  • Jakub Luzny - AGL GSoC student
  • Mikhail G. presented Open Synergy’s ideas on how to support different VirtIO devices in AGL (link to presentation)
  • Tuxera to check what modifications we need to do to the AGL file system for VirtIO
  • Laurent will try to get permission to present what VW has been working on with respect to implementing VirtIO for the next call.

Other open action items

  • Jerry following up with Qualcomm on presenting their research in this area.
  • Matt thinks that Collabora may be working on VirtIO for some of their customers. He will reach out to Daniel Stone about about giving a presentation on their status.
    • Dan will organize a presentation from Collabora at an upcoming meeting

* Next meeting June 10 at this same time.

13/05/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees:

  • Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
  • Mitsuya - Panasonic
  • Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
  • Tamura - Panasonic
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
  • Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
  • Matt Spencer - ARM
  • Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
  • Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
  • Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Eva Rio - Tuxera
  • Francois Ozog - Linaro
  • Victor Duan - Linaro
  • Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
  • Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
  • Leonid Lazerev - MERA
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
  • Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
  • Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
  • Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems
  • Jerry showed a presentation about Panasonic’s work on VirtIO and a possible plan for moving forward.
  • Mikhail G. presented Open Synergy’s progress on VirtIO and their areas of contribution to AGL (audio, video, scmi, and GPI (3D)) - Included in Jerry’s presentation
  • Joel presented a review of the GENIVI AVPS filesystems requirements.
  • Matt thinks that Collabora may be working on VirtIO for some of their customers. He will reach out to Daniel Stone about about giving a presentation on their status.
    • Daniel will organize a presentation from Collabora at an upcoming meeting

Other Open Action Items

  • Francois will ask if Qualcomm can present their research in this area.

Next meeting is scheduled for May 27 at the same time,

22/04/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees:

  • Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
  • Mitsuya - Panasonic
  • Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
  • Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
  • Matt Spencer - ARM
  • Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
  • Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
  • Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
  • Joel Catala - Tuxera
  • Eva Rio - Tuxera
  • Francois Ozog - Linaro
  • Victor Duan - Linaro
  • Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
  • Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
  • Leonid Lazerev - MERA
  • Scott Murray - Konsulko
  • Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
  • Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
  • Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
  • Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems
  • Jerry proposed that someone make a presentation on what the GENIVI spec includes and what might be missing,
    • Joel can look into file systems sections and give us a read out on those sections
    • Matt thinks that Collabora may be working on VirtIO for some of their customers. He will reach out to Daniel Stone about about giving a presentation on their status.
    • Francois will ask if Qualcomm can present their research in this area.
  • ARM and Linaro - upstream XEN work incorporating VirtIO is on-going
  • Oasis open to outside suggestions on use cases for VirtIO
  • Carmeq - need to think about the requirements for telematics, IC, and IVI since each will have very different requirements for VirtIO
  • Audio noted as a very challenging topic for VirtIO due to sensitivity to latency.
  • Joel noted that Panasonic and Open Synergy have done some work in this area. Has any of that work been shared or upstreamed to AGL?
    • Jerry will share some details at the next meeting
  • ISO 24089 - Road Vehicle Software Update Engineering
  • Next meeting May 13 at this same time.

01/04/2020, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Li, Mikhail, Scott

  • Plan is to work on Virt-IO
  • Next meetings
    • Next meeting based on poll on mailinglist

18/03/2020, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino, (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller, Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Leonid Lazarev, Mikhail Zaytsev (MERA), Mikail Goublev (OpenSynergy), Corey Minyard

12/02/2020, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino, (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent Cremmer, Mark Silberberger (Carmeq)

27/11/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino, Jeremy Fanguede (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent C, Mark Silberberger (Carmeq), Corey Minyard

18/09/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation)

04/09/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent Cremmer, Mark Silberberger (Carmeq)

* AGL AMM Montecarlo: Possibility to have a F2F meeting there. A BoF has been submitted by Michele

  • Next meeting planned for September the 18th

21/08/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent Cremmer (Carmeq)

  • General updates
    • EG-VIRT PoC updates
      • Proposal is to build a PoC with 2 AGL profiles and an open source hypervisor
      • Virtual Open Systems started the work to enable XEN from meta-virtualization on AGL. Target hardware platform is the RCar M3 for the time being. Patches are expected for next week
  • other updates

* An EG-VIRT related speech as been accepted for OSS & ELC Europe 2019.

  • Next F2F meetings:

* AGL AMM Montecarlo: Possibility to have a F2F meeting there. A BoF proposal will be submitted by Michele

  • Next meeting planned for September the 4th

24/07/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Satpreet Singh (Panasonic), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation)

  • General updates
    • Eg-VIRT BoF had ~50 attendees. Discussions are ongoing
    • Several other talks were related to virtualization during ALS
    • Proposal is to build a PoC with 2 AGL profiles and an open source hypervisor
      • Virtual Open Systems is available to take over the port of XEN to AGL
    • Next meeting planned for August 21st

26/06/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), LaurentC (VW), Mark Silberger (Carmeq/VW)

  • General updates
    • Walt shared work in progress slides that will be presented to the Xen Summit
    • Laurent provided live comments on the requirements page that have been recorded
      • new requirements related to boot time, telematics, Raspberry Pi, OS/Hypervisor updates, etc
    • The next step is to meet F2F in Tokyo and i) select the requirements to address, ii) find the the resources to develop a PoC
  • Action points (from previous discussion)
    • Eric-Artem to report about IPC mechanisms

15/05/2019, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Satpreet Singh (Panasonic), LaurentC (Volkswagen)

  • General updates
    • The AGL speech proposed by Walt has been selected for the XEN summit. Walt will share slides for EG-VIRT review in the next meeting
  • Automotive virtualization requirements inputs from Panasonic
    • Inter processor communication is important as well as InterVM communication
    • Demo requirements: For the PoC safety is not needed at the beginning. An opensource hypervisor will be used
    • Cluster EG requirements:
      • Bluetooth and Wifi might be included in cases where there is no IVI (motorcycles). What about safety there?
  • Next call to be held in 12/06:
    • we'll skip May the 29th
  • Action points
    • Walt will share slides to review for the xen summit
    • Laurent to provide inputs on requirements
    • Eric-Artem to report about IPC mechanisms

17/04/2019, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Eric Shufro (Panasonic), Artem Myagev (EPAM), walzert

  • Automotive virtualization requirements inputs from Panasonic:
    • Key topic are Inter VM communication, power management and software updates
    • Suspend to ram and GPU virt are somehow already supported by XEN
    • System power management is missing in AGL (power on, screen off etc.)
      • In virtualized environments, there is a need to power each virtual machine independently (power manager MCU that talks to plugins - one for each VM)
      • Today Tier-1s buy software from Vector to handle power moding states, communication framework, etc.
      • Panasonic is available to join Linux Foundation and discuss with Vector to find a solution for embedding solutions to this problem in AGL(also with closed binaries)
      • On this topic, OEMs (Mazda/Suzuki) are asking tier-1s to bring more production ideas to AGL. Power management is one of them
      • Today power management is done in EL3 (Arm TrustZone)
    • A micro controller in the demonstration board is a nice feature to have. Possibly with wake on CAN
  • EG-IC
    • Michele attended the last meeting, things are progressing but virtualization is not yet in their future plans
  • Next call to be held in May 15th:
    • we'll skip May the 1st
  • Action points
    • Artem to provide a couple of examples about IPC mechanisms. If this is not sufficient (Eric to check), we need to start describing a complex use case
    • Michele will monitor EG-IC

03/04/2019, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Eric Shufro, Taylor Travis, Satpreet Singh (Panasonic), Daniel Bernal (Arm), Artem Myagev (EPAM)

  • Virtualization in the AGL demo requirements.
    • Panasonic shared some requirements:
      • Non Linux OS is a requirement, together with a Checker-RTOS/Safe RTOS, e.g., FreeRTOS
      • Android is also requested
      • Only small pieces of clusters are safety related
      • Orchestrated power-off of the VMs needs to be supported
  • AGL ALS virtualization talks
    • BoF proposal submitted by EG-VIRT
  • Next call in two weeks from now
  • Action points
    • Michele: attend next IC-EG
    • Eric: provide a set of requirements

20/03/2019, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner and Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Taylor Travis (Panasonic), Daniel Bernal (Arm)

  • Virtualization in the AGL demo
    • Arm, EPAM are available to support.
    • general requirements needs to be defined (safety, other functions, etc.)
    • The Cluster WG is an interesting opportunity in the AGL community. It could be used for one of the use cases
    • It is possible to think of a 2 steps approach: at the beginning we go for a separate RTOS, then we rely on ELISA
  • AGL AMM virtualization talks
    • Instrument cluster WG announced:
      • There is an initial implementation of instrument cluster from CES.
      • Suzuki motors proposed the instrument cluster.
    • ELISA announced
    • ADAS applications from AGL announced (important dependencies on ELISA and virtualization)
  • Next call in two weeks from now
    • Action point Michele, he will get in touch with Instrument Cluster WG and come back

06/02/2019, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Johann Cahier (iot.bzh), Daniel Bernal (ARM)

  • Michele sent an email to the ML with a call for participation to define next steps to integrate virtualization in the AGL demo
    • Daniel is available to support.
    • Daniel suggests to define safety use case requirements with a list of use cases
  • AGL AMM virtualization talks
    • Johann is working on a demo to have 2 linux instances running on L4. A BoF and a regular presentation are scheduled
  • Next call in two weeks from now
    • Michele will prepare an initial proposal to be discussed during the next call

23/01/2019, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Artem Mygaiev (EPAM)

  • Michele did follow up Walt's email to the AGL members mailing list: no answer
  • Next steps of the EG needs to be defined: the definition of a use case for demonstration can be the next step
  • AP Michele: Check in the ML if there is any interest in supporting this direction
    • EPAM is available to support
  • Next call scheduled on 2019/02/06

Nov. 14th 2018, 3PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Umair Hashim, Daniel Bernal (Arm), Tiejun Chen (VMware), Alexander Damisch

  • AP Michele: Follow up the email from Walt to the AGL members mailing list
  • Umair will evaluate the possibility to add support for KVM on the Salvator-XS

Oct. 31st 2018, 3PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Daniel Bernal (Arm)

  • On Oct. 10th, an official request for feedback has been issued by Walt
    • no feedbacks
  • During the AGL AMM, the EG-VIRT speech has been held
    • Slides available at this address. Comments are welcome.
    • good presence during the presentation, no specific comments or questions

Oct. 3rd 2018, 4PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare)

  • The AGL mailing list servers had some issues recently. For this reason, Walt's feedback request did not go through. He is going to send it again.
  • Next call on the 17th of October is canceled. Next F2F meeting scheduled during AMM (18/10/2018)

Sept. 19th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Daniel Bernal (Arm)

  • Dresden AGL AMM schedule announced
    • Talks cover virtualization (L4re) and RT
  • The EG-VIRT BoF session in Dresden is scheduled on the 18th 1:55PM
    • Focus will be on the next steps highlighted in the whitepaper: VM to VM communication and virtualization of the IO
  • Possibility of additional EG-Virt meeting on Friday 19th.
  • EG-Speech would like to take our time slot on Tuesday
    • We accepted to have EG-VIRT meeting one hour later each other Tuesday. If this is not OK for some of the EG-VIRT group members please let us know
  • Walt will send out a general request for feedback to OEMs and Tier-1 in the members ML
  • Next F2F meeting 18/10/2018

July 25th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Jan-Simon Moeller(Linux Foundation), Jack Ren (Intel ACRN), Tiejun Chen (VMWare)

  • Jack is interested in integrating ACRN in AGL
    • meta-virtualization is the right place to add new hypervisors in AGL
    • Jack will investigate and come back with more questions if needed
  • Next call 22nd of August

June 27th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner(Linux Foundation)

June 4th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Artem Mygaiev (EPAM)

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization White paper
    • During the call, the AB comments have been discussed and addressed. A new version of the document is available.
    • Walt will send the PDF to the AB for the final validation
      • To be scheduled after ALS

May 30th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Artem Mygaiev (EPAM), Stephane Desneux (IoT.bhz), George Eldho John

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Walt will come back about the comment discussed during the last call: It should be solved but we need confirmation
    • two new comments arrived and have been discussed during the call: One related to the use of containers, the other about integration challenges.
      • Walt will follow up with comments authors to make sure our understanding of their comment is OK
    • An additional call to finalize the document is planned for Monday 4th of June, 3PM CEST
    • The communication between EE is one of the main concerns today. The interest for this part has been confirmed by the comments received from the AB
    • White-paper dissemination proposal: have printed versions to distribute at ALS

May 16th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi), ADIT_ynakamur, Artem Mygaiev, raj

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • received one comment from the AB, against section 6.3 (commercial solutions)
      • during the call, a comment has been added to the shared document to address this comment. The idea is to add a sentence that explains the importance of commercial solutions at this stage for their ability of providing safety certifiable solutions and supporting artifacts.
        • Walt will verify with the AB whether this properly addresses the comment
      • Artem mentioned that the XEN community plans to go in that direction in around the end of this year. This information can be added to the whitepaper

May 2nd 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi), Ajmal, Neil Thomas

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • v1.2 has been released, and has been shared with the AGL Advisory Board (AB) for review on April 24th
      • The AGL AB has 30 days to provide comments before the release
        • No comments received so far
      • The objective is to release it publicly at ALS2018 with a Linux Foundation press release
    • An EG-VIRT BoF session has been accepted for ALS2018
  • Other business
    • Updates from the XEN Community:
      • XEN is now going certification
      • EPAM is working on a white paper about XEN RT virtualization to be released around June
    • Next call May 16th 3PM CEST

April 18th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Daniel Bernal (ARM), Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi)

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • During the Karlsruhe F2F meeting the AGL white paper has been presented
    • live discussion about the last pending review
      • Some points are left open after the discussion: Walt/Michele are working on them
    • License proposed is CC BY 4.0
  • Other business
    • Next call May 2nd 3PM CEST

April 4th 2018, 3PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Ajmal M Ali (Tata Elxsi), Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi), Artem Mygaiev, Alex Agizim (EPAM), Jonathan Kline

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • After Walt review, two pictures and one box have been added
    • License and template are still missing
    • next steps
      • Last proof read and send the document for review to the steering board by the end of this week
      • During the next F2F meeting in Karlsruhe the AGL white paper will be presented
  • Other business
    • Next call April 18th 3PM CEST

March 21st 2018, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Ajmal M Ali (Tata Elxsi), Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi),

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Document has been available for review since the last call
    • The content is today fixed and in a good shape
    • Contributions/reviews have been sent by Daniel, Adam, Tiejun
    • Michele worked on the KVM/XEN and Contributors section
      • to all contributors, please verify you are there and that your name-affiliation is included properly
    • next steps
      • Wait for missing contributions
      • Send the document PDF for review to the steering board with contributors in copy (Action Walt)
  • Other business
    • Next call April 4th 3PM CEST

March 12th 2018, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Ajmal M Ali (Tata Elxsi), Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi), Domining, Vinod (Wipro), george.j, Sai Krishna

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Current status of the document has been reviewed. Comments have been added to the shared document
      • Michele provided a new version of the white paper
      • Proposed title is “The AGL software defined connected car architecture”
    • Action points
      • @All, Review the document by Monday 19/03/2018.
      • Contributors please fill section 8 with your name - company
      • @Rich, reduce XEN description to 10-12 lines
      • @Adam, reduce L4Re description to 10-12 lines
      • Complete commercial solution descriptions (@Walt, can you close the loop with the interested members?)
  • Other business
    • New calls schedule: each other Wednesday 2PM CET starting from next call
    • Next call March 21st 2PM CET

February 16th 2018, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Daniel Bernal (Arm), Ajmal M Ali, Gayathri PP (Tata Elxsi), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Artem Mygaiev (EPAM), Ciwan Gouma, Rich Persaud, Sai Krishna, George Eldho John, Praveen Kumar, Sneha James

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Walt will come back to us with more information about the white paper template
    • Interesting event to present the community white paper is Connected Car California (April 26th)
    • Current status of the document has been reviewed. Comments have been added to the shared document
      • Adam, Praveen, Michele and Tiejun provided new content. We have now 14 pages of text
      • No major sections with contributions missing. The work is in line with the the original plan
    • Next steps:
      • Review the full document, shrink it (Michele, ALL)
      • Complete missing parts and eventually call for new actions (Michele)
  • Other business
    • F2F EG-VIRT meeting has been scheduled for Thursday 9AM Tokyo time
    • Next Call: The one on Feb.23rd will be canceled.
  • EG-VIRT plan for 2018 has been uploaded by Michele on the AGL-roadmap wiki page and has been presented during the call

February 13th 2018, 4PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Daniel Bernal (ARM), Sebastien Douheret (IoT.bzh), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Artem Mygaiev (EPAM), Ajmal M Ali (Tata Elxsi), Praveen Kumar, Christopher Clark, Andrii Anisov, Rich Persaud, Gayathri PP

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Current status of the document has been reviewed. Comments have been added to the shared document
      • Daniel, Artem and Tiejun provided new content.
      • Section with contribution pending are: 6 (hypervisors)
      • New deadline for contributions is Friday 16/02/2018.
  • Other business
    • Next calls scheduled for February 16th (2PM CET).

February 9th 2018, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Sebastien Douheret, Ronan Le Martret (IoT.bzh), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Rich Persaud, Ajmal M Ali, Alexander Damisch, Sai Krishna, Gayathri PP, Osman Ismael

  • The group wiki page has been updated by Michele
  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Current status of the document has been reviewed. Comments have been added to the shared document
      • Michele and Tiejun provided new content
      • Section which still miss a contributor are: 4.2.2 (assigned to Daniel), 5.2, 5.3 (to decide during the next call whether to keep them)
      • Section with contribution pending are: 3.1, 3.2, 4.2.3, 6
      • New deadline for contribution is Feb. 13th
      • Proposal is to have next call on Feb. 13th and another on Feb. 16th
      • Michele pinged OEM/Tier 1 to join the effort for the Use Cases/Requirements section
  • Other business
    • Next calls scheduled for February 13th (4PM CET) and Feb 16th (2PM CET)

February 6th 2018, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moller (Linux Foundation), Sebastien Douheret, Ronan Le Martret (IoT.bzh), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Artem Mygaiev (EPAM), Rich Persaud, Ajmel

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • Agenda meeting include Review ToC, discuss proposal for contributions and assign contributors to sections and Start editing
      • No major comments on the ToC, which will be freezed during the next meeting
      • New sections have been assigned, a couple of them still miss the contributor
      • Daniel provided text for the business cases section
      • Michele will ask OEM/Tier 1 to join the effort for the Use Cases/Requirements section
  • Other business
    • Next call scheduled for February 9th, usual time (2PM CET)

January 26th 2018, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Daniel Bernal (Arm), Sebastien Douheret (IoT.bzh, Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Dongjiu Geng (Huawei)

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • The official virtualization whitepaper call for contribution has been issued by the LinuxFoundation today, the work can now officially start
    • A shared document has been set up to proceed with the editing work. The document is publicly available at this address: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HpYzClh0nDEocsUHb17X0DxiehsAbCgyWE-P2Wk_RNU/edit?usp=sharing
      • The document can be read by anyone. People interested in contributing can request access
      • The document today contains a first table of content and editing plan, which have been presented during the call by Michele. Please read and comment, suggestions are welcome (both via mail, the document itself and conference calls).
      • Some sections have been assigned, other need your contribution!
  • EG-VIRT roadmap
  • Other business
    • Next call scheduled for February 6th, usual time (2PM CET)

November 17th 2017, 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Alexander Daimsch

  • EG-VIRT Virtualization Whitepaper
    • The official virtualization whitepaper call for contribution will be issued by the LinuxFoundation soon
    • Michele will start collecting contribution proposals and will release a plan with indicative deadlines
    • Google docs seems to be easier to set up and to use in this initial phase. Walt will initialize the document using this platform. If anybody has issues with this, let us know
  • Other business
    • Next call moved to Nov. 29th, same time

November 3rd 2017, 1PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Daniel Bernal (ARM), Tiejun Chen (VMWare), Joel Hoffmann (Renesas), Artem Mygaiev, Alex Agizim (EPAM), Okuno

  • Dresden AMM discussions recap
    • The Tokyo AGL AMM 2018 is the target for the whitepaper.
    • Walt will send an email to the discussions mail list to recruit team members to write the content of the paper.
  • EG-VIRT whitepaper Table of Content proposal presentation
    • Daniel Bernal (ARM) proposed a business model section.
    • Artem Mygaiev (EPAM) proposed to prioritise requirements.
  • Next steps
    • Michele will share the version of the ToC discussed during the meeting with Walt Miner. After, Walt will send out the call for participation.
    • For the editing phase, gitbook will be used
    • Contributors are invited to claim their willingness to work to specific parts of the text. During the next call in two weeks, the ToC will be stabilised, contributions will be assigned and a first deadline will be set.

September 22nd 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Daniel Bernal (ARM), Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Sebastien Douheret (IOT.bz), Okuno

  • KVM on Renesas R-Car M3
    • one patch merged review in meta-agl (change 10597, https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/10597/)
    • It is now possible to compile AGL with KVM enabled by adding the argument “agl-egvirt” when running the aglsetup.sh script
    • Action Michele: test KVM on M3 with pyro

SPEC 718 “Provide user space tool for KVM” marked as resolved

  • SPEC 496 “KVM porting to AGL” marked as resolved
  • EG-VIRT next steps:
    • Add virtualization/KVM support for Renesas R-Car H3
    • Improve documentation
    • Integrate meta-virtualization functions in AGL
  • Architecture discussion: The objective today is to find project-wise solutions to enable the execution of safety critical guests in AGL. Different solutions are being considered.
    • Multiple solutions can be targeted if there is strong interest from the community to support them
    • Discussion on requirements and use cases should start again at a certain point in order to advance into defining an architecture
  • Michele: the EG-VIRT session in Dresden will focus on new community directions to address safety critical and connectivity applications
  • Daniel: ARM is interested in the definition of an embedded virtualization solution for AGL and it is willing to contribute in that direction
  • Next EG-VIRT meeting: October 6th 2017

August 25th 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation)

  • During the last month, quite an intensive work has been done in the direction of the EG-VIRT yocto layer and KVM on ARMv8.
  • EG-VIRT Yocto layer
    • A new agl-egvirt MACHINE_FEATURE has been created.
    • two patches merged: the first in meta-agl (change 10507) and the other one meta-agl-devel (change 10476)
    • the eg-virt layer is in the meta-agl-devel repository
    • to enable it, add the argument “agl-egvirt” when running the aglsetup.sh script
  • KVM on Renesas R-Car M3
    • one patch merged in meta-agl-devel (change 10547)
    • one patch under review in meta-agl (change 10597)
  • EG-VIRT next steps:
    • finalize the support for KVM on the M3
    • Add virtualization/KVM support for Renesas R-Car H3
    • Integrate meta-virtualization functions in AGL
  • The EG-VIRT BoF session has been accepted for AGL AMM Fall meeting, you are all invited
  • EG-VIRT in the news!! The project has been mentioned by an official AGL press release, which has been mentioned/commented/described by several other websites
  • Next EG-VIRT meeting: September 22nd 2017

July 28th 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation)

Points of interest:

  • KVM on AGL update
  • EG-VIRT Yocto layer
    • New SPEC created as a sub task of SPEC-148 (Virtualization): https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-787
    • Michele's proposal is to create a meta-virt (or meta-egvirt) layer which will be used to develop and test new features as well as to assess/contribute back to existing layers
      • Example are meta-virtualization, a QEMU bbappend, etc.
      • External repository will be pulled through the AGL-repo default.xml file
      • the new layer should be able to correctly keep track of generic and changes bsp/AGL specifc (e.g., like what is done by the meta-updater layer)

June 30th 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation)

Points of interest:

May 26th 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation)

Points of interest:

  • KVM on AGL update, Third patch version uploaded at https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/9317
    • Added arm-trusted-firmware patch, which makes this work easy to be tested by the community
    • This patch version does not contain Linux kernel modifications. In fact, these resulted not necessary with the proposed ATF patch and a recent kernel (higher than 4.6)
  • ALS2017 will have an EG-VIRT BoF with KVM on AGL demo
  • Presentation links put in the wiki page

May 5th 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Stephane Desneux (IoT.bzh), Joel Hoffmann (Renesas), Jan-Simon Möller, Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Domining Ar Foll (Intel)

Points of interest:

  • KVM on AGL update:
    • KVM is running properly on the Renesas R-Car M3 with the AGL master repo (kernel version v4.9/rcar-3.5.3)
    • A new patch has been shared with the community for discussion
    • Action Michele: Add tag-prefix in the commit name ([Community])
    • Action Michele: Provide a way for the community to test it
      • A web-guide will be provided as soon as all the patches will be available

April 21st 2017, 2PM CEST Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Arvind Murthy (Global Logic), Ronan Le Martret, Stephane Desneux (IoT.bzh), Harunobu Kurokawa (Renesas), Jan-Simon Möller (Linux Foundation)

Points of interest:

  • KVM on AGL Update:
  • GlobalLogic is willing to work to port AGL on Xen Hypervisor
  • Tokyo ALS 2017 accepted submissions related to virtualization:
    • How to Introduce Virtualization in AGL? Objectives, Plans and Targets for AGL EG-VIRT - Michele Paolino
    • An OpenSource Low Level Hypervisor for AGL - Dominig ar Foll

March 14th 2017, at 1PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino, Kevin Chappuis (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Domining Ar Foll(Intel), Stephane Desneux, Ronan Le Martret (IOT.BZH)

Points of interest:

    • Sub-task is related to booting Linux in EL2 to be able to run KVM
  • A linux patch to enable Linux kernel booting in EL2 is under testing. /dev/kvm in present in the system (KVM boots correctly). However there is a problem with the VTTBR alignment when a VM is run. More in particular, when qemu-system-aarch64 is run with the “–enable-kvm” option, the kernel raises a Oops - BUG.
    • This problem is currently under investigation. As soon as the more information will be available, it will be shared with the community.

March 10th 2017, at 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Domining Ar Foll(Intel), Joel Hoffmann (Renesas), Fulup Ar Foll, Ronan Le Martret(IOT.BZH), Takahi Matsuzawa (Xevo KK)

Points of interest:

  • updated virtualization issue on Jira: https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-148
    • The description of this issue has been modified to reflect a more generic activity which targets virtualization
  • Identification of Proof of Concept activities to demonstrate virtualization basics in AGL
    • KVM on AGL activity is proposed by Virtual Open Systems, aiming at proving basic Virtualization first. Other advanced features will be added later (graphic, etc).
      • The initial target of this work is R-Car M3.
      • Domining is interested to test it in parallel on Intel
    • Domining is working to prepare a PoC with Jailhouse on AGL
  • ALS 2017 virtualization related proposals
    • Michele presented an EG-VIRT BoF proposal for ALS2017
    • Fulup and Domining proposed talks respectively on the Application Framework namespaces and on Jailhouse
    • If other related presentations have been proposed, we can list all of them in the the EG-VIRT wiki page
  • The aforementioned basics PoCs results can be used to collect experiences needed to prepare an official AGL Virtualization Framework proposal to EG-SAT

February 24th 2017, at 2PM CET Meeting

Attendees: Michele Paolino, Kevin Chappuis, Alvise Rigo (Virtual Open Systems), Jan-Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Ronan Le Martret, Fulup Ar Foll (IoT.bzh), Takahi Matsuzawa (Xevo KK)

  • One of the key reasons to use virtualization is the possibility to execute different OSes with different level of criticality (e.g., AGL + RTOS). For this reason the idea is to discuss about the definition of the RTOS requirements.
  • RTOS main requirements are 3D graphic, ISO26262, open source license
    • As for 3D graphic, there is need to share it between the RTOS and AGL. Possibilities are API remoting, HW partitioning and Display controller direct access
      • On top of this, optional target for RTOS graphic can be solutions like Qt, which is GPL v3 thus cannot be used in the AGL core
    • At the best of our knowledge, no open source OS ASIL B or ASIL C exists today
      • Linux ASIL certification for kernel portion might be a solution. Intel is working on this
      • Fulup suggests to go through a call for companies to find whether some members are willing to donate something
      • We could go through an evaluation of the existing technologies and present them to the SAT team and then to the AGL steering committee
  • FreeRTOS
    • It is open source, but it has no graphic support and it is not ISO26262 certified
    • Linux RT patches are an alternative

Kick-Off - January 27th 2017, at 2PM CET

Attendees: Michele Paolino, Kevin Chappuis (Virtual Open Systems), Dominig (Intel Open Source), Fulup ar Foll, Ronan Le Martret, Stephane Desneux (IoT.bzh), Tadao Tanikawa (Panasonic), Walt Miner (AGL), JS Moeller (Linux foundation), Peng

  • Presentation of the EG goals and objectives
  • AGL virtualization has to be hypervisor agnostic, targeting all the AGL supported hardware platforms
  • SPEC-148 page needs to be reshaped
  • Use Cases (GPU Virtualization) has been discussed, mentioning opensource solution like virtio-GPU, XenGT
  • First plan of the next step discussed, with a PoC proposal for ALS2017
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