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AGL System Architecture Team (SAT) Meetings

Meetings of the System Architecture Team are held every other Thursday. The upcoming schedule can be found on the project calendar.

Conference Information:

AGL-SAT Biweekly Meeting

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April 1, 2025

Attendees: Jan-Simon, Scott, Marius, Itoh, Yamaguchi, Ninjouji,

  • OSPO EG
    • 4/1
      • Meeting held earlier today. Executive deck nearly finalized.
      • Brainstormed ideas for next actions.
      • See meeting minutes for details.
  • IVI PR Updates from Toyota
    • 4/1
      • Discussed issue with workspace version mismatch with Flutter version and came up with a way to keep.
      • Joel switching to SDL3 as his wayland wrapper. Need to find out his plans for Trout.
      • Joel is on vacation this week and next.
  • IC EG Updates
    • 4/1
      • Yamaguchi-san created six Jira tickets to outline improvement to the IC demo for this year. SPEC-5399 is the overall project with the others as subtasks. Plan is compare VirtIO loopback with SocketCAN in the demo.
  • Reference Hardware (and other hardware)
    • 4/1
      • Demonstrated the VisionFive2 running flutter at Embedded World and it looked good.
  • SDV EG
    • 4/1
      • Several members had a discussion with AMD about Xen support. Walt got a quote for the Sapphire 5050A board which is very pricey. Need to have a follow up with AMD about possible AGL membership.
      • Submitted SORA and SOAR as possible names for new SDV platform.
  • Waltham replacement SPEC-4689 - would like feedback on the two proposals in the Jira ticket.

Profiles document can be found here.

  • 5/26
    • Document was started last week in Berlin. No updates since then. Will review next SAT call.
  • RTOS Confluence page
    • 9/5
      • AWS completed some code and is awaiting verification of the distributed architecture for heterogeneous multicore architecture. Need to finish verification and determine where the code should be upstreamed to.
      • Richard and Jerry discussed having Jerry and SDV EG fill in the Hypervisor cell part of the architecture.
    • 9/19
      • AWS code for heterogeneous multicore should ready to be published at the end of their current sprint.
      • Kazuki-san is working on the hypervisor cell topic. We would like to touch base with Paul M about these topics as well.
    • 10/5
      • Kazuki-san added the hypervisor cell topic in Confluence. We will review it at the next SAT.
    • 10/17
    • 3/18
  • S4SK BSP
    • 4/1 - did not show at Embedded World. CAN interface still not working unless it talks to another S4SK board.

New Business

  • Discussed proposal from Elektrobit to discuss Debian packaging during the AMM workshop. We will invite them to the workshop.

February 18, 2025

Attendees: Jan-Simon, Scott, Marius

- skipped -

  • Super Salmon 19.0.0 was released. Release notes can be found here
  • OSPO EG
    • 2/4
      • Meeting held this morning
      • Planning special OSPO event during the AMM. Inviting local comapanies who want more information about AGL, OSPO activities, OpenChain etc.
      • Walt will add the event to the AMM schedule from 17:15-18:45 on Wednesday
      • OSPO BoF session - Itoh-san to check if Endo-san can lead the BoF.
      • OSPO EG would like to hire a contractor for technical writing to improve the quality of the documentation.
    • 2/28
      • Added the document to Google drive, Itoh-san will send an email to mail list to announce that the document can be reviewed there.
      • Walt to set up a meeting to start at noon JST on Tuesday before the SC meeting. Will be in person and on-line.
    • 3/18
  • IVI PR Updates from Toyota
    • 2/4
      • No update this week. Meeting planned for Thursday in the Japan friendly time.
      • Joel will make is talk at the AMM remotely.
    • 2/18
      • Will cancel the IVI PR call for this week due to Walt's travel.
    • 3/18
  • IC EG Updates
    • 2/4
      • Testing Salon M4. Found two issues with RPI, one for audio, and one for Rockchip. All will be merged for final Salmon release.
      • Creating presentation for AMM.
    • 2/18
      • No update. Dr. Y is traveling this week and next.
    • 3/18
  • Reference Hardware (and other hardware)
    • 1/07
      • Rockchip included for Salmon
      • Vision 5 board patch was created by Yamaguchi-san. Only Qt 6 IVI is available and it requires a specific install package. Needs to be documented if we included it in the release.
    • 2/18
      • Will show VisionFive 2 at Embedded World. Jan-Simon is attempting to get Flutter working. Qt 6 will be the fall back. Need to confirm that input is working correctly.
    • 3/18
  • SDV EG
    • 1/7
      • No meeting this week. Will meet next week to discuss demo apps for the Unified HMI.
    • 1/21
      • 2 UHMI-specific apps proposed by Panasonic. They'll work on it.
      • grpc/agl-compositor integration WIP by Marius.
    • 2/4
      • Discussed AGL compositor changes with UHMI with Murakami-san and Marius during the call. Documenting in SPEC-5280
      • Discussed Phase 4 development for VOS.
    • 2/18
      • Panasonic internally has developed Unified applications with the Sony Flutter embedder. Some effort may be needed to confirm that it works with the Toyota embedder.
      • Murakami-san getting married end of next week. Too busy to help us :(
    • 3/18
  • Waltham replacement SPEC-4689 - would like feedback on the two proposals in the Jira ticket.

Profiles document can be found here.

  • 5/26
    • Document was started last week in Berlin. No updates since then. Will review next SAT call.
  • RTOS Confluence page
    • 9/5
      • AWS completed some code and is awaiting verification of the distributed architecture for heterogeneous multicore architecture. Need to finish verification and determine where the code should be upstreamed to.
      • Richard and Jerry discussed having Jerry and SDV EG fill in the Hypervisor cell part of the architecture.
    • 9/19
      • AWS code for heterogeneous multicore should ready to be published at the end of their current sprint.
      • Kazuki-san is working on the hypervisor cell topic. We would like to touch base with Paul M about these topics as well.
    • 10/5
      • Kazuki-san added the hypervisor cell topic in Confluence. We will review it at the next SAT.
    • 10/17
    • 3/18
  • S4SK BSP
    • 7/23
      • We have the firmware that connects the CAN bus to the Linux code. Jan-Simon and Scott will test it out. * 1/21
      • Scott has the unlock firmware flashed and got the CAN interfaces to show up (required windows tool), need to verify CAN bus communication.
    • 3/18
  • 2025 demo plan for Embedded World, ALS and more
  • No CES in January. AMM and Embedded World in late February and mid-March
  • Some ideas that were discussed
    • VirtIO loop back for IC containers
    • Make use of unified HMI. Need to port to AGL compositor to make use of the AGL applications
      • Talk to ICS about app ideas
    • App Store POC - need to get some more schedule details from Joel and determine how to do the store hosting
    • Update the gateway demo to use the S4 instead of reference hardware. Would also show off newest demo control panel. The AWS part might be hard or impossible.
  • AMM scheduled for Feb 26-27. We will have the F2F meeting on Feb 28. CFP is open
    • Honda would like to discuss how to accelerate open source functional safety development with Xen, Zephyr and AOSP during the F2F meeting
    • Walt will add the meeting to the wiki page and send an announcement on the mail list

New Business

February 4, 2025

Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Itoh, Marius, Yamaguchi, Kusakabe, Itoh, Takashi Ninjouji (Honda)

  • OSPO EG
    • 2/4
      • Meeting held this morning
      • Planning special OSPO event during the AMM. Inviting local comapanies who want more information about AGL, OSPO activities, OpenChain etc.
      • Walt will add the event to the AMM schedule from 17:15-18:45 on Wednesday
      • OSPO BoF session - Itoh-san to check if Endo-san can lead the BoF.
      • OSPO EG would like to hire a contractor for technical writing to improve the quality of the documentation.
  • IVI PR Updates from Toyota
    • 2/4
      • No update this week. Meeting planned for Thursday in the Japan friendly time.
      • Joel will make is talk at the AMM remotely.
  • IC EG Updates
    • 2/4
      • Testing Salon M4. Found two issues with RPI, one for audio, and one for Rockchip. All will be merged for final Salmon release.
      • Creating presentation for AMM.
  • Reference Hardware (and other hardware)
    • 1/07
      • Rockchip included for Salmon
      • Vision 5 board patch was created by Yamaguchi-san. Only Qt 6 IVI is available and it requires a specific install package. Needs to be documented if we included it in the release.
  • SDV EG
    • 1/7
      • No meeting this week. Will meet next week to discuss demo apps for the Unified HMI.
    • 1/21
      • 2 UHMI-specific apps proposed by Panasonic. They'll work on it.
      • grpc/agl-compositor integration WIP by Marius.
    • 2/4
      • Discussed AGL compositor changes with UHMI with Murakami-san and Marius during the call. Documenting in SPEC-5280
      • Discussed Phase 4 development for VOS.
  • Waltham replacement SPEC-4689 - would like feedback on the two proposals in the Jira ticket.

Profiles document can be found here.

  • 5/26
    • Document was started last week in Berlin. No updates since then. Will review next SAT call.
  • RTOS Confluence page
    • 9/5
      • AWS completed some code and is awaiting verification of the distributed architecture for heterogeneous multicore architecture. Need to finish verification and determine where the code should be upstreamed to.
      • Richard and Jerry discussed having Jerry and SDV EG fill in the Hypervisor cell part of the architecture.
    • 9/19
      • AWS code for heterogeneous multicore should ready to be published at the end of their current sprint.
      • Kazuki-san is working on the hypervisor cell topic. We would like to touch base with Paul M about these topics as well.
    • 10/5
      • Kazuki-san added the hypervisor cell topic in Confluence. We will review it at the next SAT.
    • 10/17
  • S4SK BSP
    • 7/23
      • We have the firmware that connects the CAN bus to the Linux code. Jan-Simon and Scott will test it out. * 1/21
      • Scott has the unlock firmware flashed and got the CAN interfaces to show up (required windows tool), need to verify CAN bus communication.
  • 2025 demo plan for Embedded World, ALS and more
    • No CES in January. AMM and Embedded World in late February and mid-March
    • Some ideas that were discussed
      • VirtIO loop back for IC containers
      • Make use of unified HMI. Need to port to AGL compositor to make use of the AGL applications
        • Talk to ICS about app ideas
      • App Store POC - need to get some more schedule details from Joel and determine how to do the store hosting
      • Update the gateway demo to use the S4 instead of reference hardware. Would also show off newest demo control panel. The AWS part might be hard or impossible.
  • AMM scheduled for Feb 26-27. We will have the F2F meeting on Feb 28. CFP is open
    • Honda would like to discuss how to accelerate open source functional safety development with Xen, Zephyr and AOSP during the F2F meeting
    • Walt will add the meeting to the wiki page and send an announcement on the mail list

New Business

January 21, 2024

Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Scott, Itoh, Marius, Yamaguchi, Kusakabe

  • OSPO EG
    • 1/7
      • Fourth meeting held.
      • Itoh-san or Endo-san will submit a talk for the AMM
      • OSPO BoF session for the AMM could do the the talk as a BoF or as two sessions. Will decide.
      • Itoh-san Confluence account is locked. Walt will help him get unlocked.
    • 1/21
      • Working on presentation, no call today.
  • IC EG Updates
    • 1/7
      • Yamaguchi-san getting his last small fixes into Salmon M2 - all fixes no pass CI and can be merged when Jan-Simon gets back from holiday.
      • Embedded World demo integration is next major topic - Dr. Y getting permission from his company to attend.
      • Ishii-san also working on getting travel approved for Embedded World
      • Yamaguchi-san will give a talk at the AMM.
    • 1/21
      • Bug fixes merged for master/salmon.
      • Testing each board now (container integration)
  • Reference Hardware (and other hardware)
    • 1/07
      • Rockchip included for Salmon
      • Vision 5 board patch was created by Yamaguchi-san. Only Qt 6 IVI is available and it requires a specific install package. Needs to be documented if we included it in the release.
  • SDV EG
    • 1/7
      • No meeting this week. Will meet next week to discuss demo apps for the Unified HMI.
    • 1/21
      • 2 UHMI-specific apps proposed by Panasonic. They'll work on it.
      • grpc/agl-compositor integration WIP by Marius.
  • Waltham replacement SPEC-4689 - would like feedback on the two proposals in the Jira ticket.

Profiles document can be found here.

  • 5/26
    • Document was started last week in Berlin. No updates since then. Will review next SAT call.
  • RTOS Confluence page
    • 9/5
      • AWS completed some code and is awaiting verification of the distributed architecture for heterogeneous multicore architecture. Need to finish verification and determine where the code should be upstreamed to.
      • Richard and Jerry discussed having Jerry and SDV EG fill in the Hypervisor cell part of the architecture.
    • 9/19
      • AWS code for heterogeneous multicore should ready to be published at the end of their current sprint.
      • Kazuki-san is working on the hypervisor cell topic. We would like to touch base with Paul M about these topics as well.
    • 10/5
      • Kazuki-san added the hypervisor cell topic in Confluence. We will review it at the next SAT.
    • 10/17
  • S4SK BSP
    • 7/23
      • We have the firmware that connects the CAN bus to the Linux code. Jan-Simon and Scott will test it out. * 1/21
      • Scott has the unlock firmware flashed and got the CAN interfaces to show up (required windows tool), need to verify CAN bus communication.
  • 2025 demo plan for Embedded World, ALS and more
    • No CES in January. AMM and Embedded World in late February and mid-March
    • Some ideas that were discussed
      • VirtIO loop back for IC containers
      • Make use of unified HMI. Need to port to AGL compositor to make use of the AGL applications
        • Talk to ICS about app ideas
      • App Store POC - need to get some more schedule details from Joel and determine how to do the store hosting
      • Update the gateway demo to use the S4 instead of reference hardware. Would also show off newest demo control panel. The AWS part might be hard or impossible.
  • AMM scheduled for Feb 26-27. We will have the F2F meeting on Feb 28. CFP is open
    • Honda would like to discuss how to accelerate open source functional safety development with Xen, Zephyr and AOSP during the F2F meeting
    • Walt will add the meeting to the wiki page and send an announcement on the mail list

New Business

  • Waltham replacement SPEC-4689 - would like feedback on the two proposals in the Jira ticket.

January 7, 2024

Attendees: Walt, Scott, Ishii, Itoh, Marius, Yamaguchi, Kusakabe, George

  • OSPO EG
    • 1/7
      • Fourth meeting held.
      • Itoh-san or Endo-san will submit a talk for the AMM
      • OSPO BoF session for the AMM could do the the talk as a BoF or as two sessions. Will decide.
      • Itoh-san Confluence account is locked. Walt will help him get unlocked.
  • IVI PR Updates from Toyota
    • 1/7
      • This is week is Japan morning time slot (Friday at 9 am JST). Will review the App Store POC updates, new backend support, and other topics.
      • Need an IVI PR talk to be submitted to the AMM CFP
  • IC EG Updates
    • 1/7
      • Yamaguchi-san getting his last small fixes into Salmon M2 - all fixes no pass CI and can be merged when Jan-Simon gets back from holiday.
      • Embedded World demo integration is next major topic - Dr. Y getting permission from his company to attend.
      • Ishii-san also working on getting travel approved for Embedded World
      • Yamaguchi-san will give a talk at the AMM.
  • Reference Hardware (and other hardware)
    • 1/07
      • Rockchip included for Salmon
      • Vision 5 board patch was created by Yamaguchi-san. Only Qt 6 IVI is available and it requires a specific install package. Needs to be documented if we included it in the release.
  • SDV EG
    • 1/7
      • No meeting this week. Will meet next week to discuss demo apps for the Unified HMI.

Profiles document can be found here.

  • 5/26
    • Document was started last week in Berlin. No updates since then. Will review next SAT call.
  • RTOS Confluence page
    • 9/5
      • AWS completed some code and is awaiting verification of the distributed architecture for heterogeneous multicore architecture. Need to finish verification and determine where the code should be upstreamed to.
      • Richard and Jerry discussed having Jerry and SDV EG fill in the Hypervisor cell part of the architecture.
    • 9/19
      • AWS code for heterogeneous multicore should ready to be published at the end of their current sprint.
      • Kazuki-san is working on the hypervisor cell topic. We would like to touch base with Paul M about these topics as well.
    • 10/5
      • Kazuki-san added the hypervisor cell topic in Confluence. We will review it at the next SAT.
    • 10/17
  • S4SK BSP
    • 7/23
      • We have the firmware that connects the CAN bus to the Linux code. Jan-Simon and Scott will test it out.
  • 2025 demo plan for Embedded World, ALS and more
    • No CES in January. AMM and Embedded World in late February and mid-March
    • Some ideas that were discussed
      • VirtIO loop back for IC containers
      • Make use of unified HMI. Need to port to AGL compositor to make use of the AGL applications
        • Talk to ICS about app ideas
      • App Store POC - need to get some more schedule details from Joel and determine how to do the store hosting
      • Update the gateway demo to use the S4 instead of reference hardware. Would also show off newest demo control panel. The AWS part might be hard or impossible.
  • AMM scheduled for Feb 26-27. We will have the F2F meeting on Feb 28. CFP is open
    • Honda would like to discuss how to accelerate open source functional safety development with Xen, Zephyr and AOSP during the F2F meeting
    • Walt will add the meeting to the wiki page and send an announcement on the mail list

December 10, 2024

Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon,Ishii, Itoh, Marius, Yamaguchi, Kusakabe

  • OSPO EG
    • 12/10
      • Third meeting held.
  • IVI PR Updates from Toyota
    • 11/12
      • Japan friendly time meeting to be held this week.
    • 11/26
      • No meeting this week due to US Holiday. Next Japan friendly time is December 10 meeting.
      • Would like to schedule a F2F meeting with Joel in Japan (maybe AMM? or another trip he makes to Japan)
      • Update of meta-flutter to 3.24.4 is expected from Toyota to be included with Salman M2
      • App Store POC making progress
    • 12/10
      • Last meeting was canceled due to travel. This week's meeting is in the Japan friendly time slot.
  • IC EG Updates
    • 10/15
      • Qt6 migration complete waiting for last patches to get merged.
    • 11/12
      • Qt6 migration is complete.
      • Reviewing updates to cgroupv1
    • 11/26
      • Should discuss alternatives to LXC and whether IC EG should use a different solution (see gerrit 30510 for complications related to keeping LXC with cgroupsv2). Should keep upstream first in mind vs. creating a bunch of one-off code we need to maintain. Ideally we would have a solution where someone can use a container (LXC or other) “out of the box” without the need to for the external container manager.
        • LXC support for two-layer isolation
        • Yamaguchi-san created container-manager on github. Question of whether this will remain on github or moved to gerrit and whether Yamaguchi-san will maintain the code long term.
        • SAT would like to see additional documentation so that we do not have a single point of knowledge.
        • Discussed gerrit 30504 particularly the need for image-mount.sh
    • 12/10
      • Yamaguchi-san fixed DRM lease issue and it was merged for Salmon M2
  • Reference Hardware (and other hardware)
    • 11/12
      • Rockchip board being added for Salmon
  • SDV EG
    • 7/9
      • No update
    • 8/20
      • VOS gave an update on their latest work during the call this morning.
    • 10/1
      • Update on next UHMI release , schedule is mid-october
      • VOS uploaded more virtio patches to gerrit for review.
    • 11/12
      • Marius working on SPEC-5280 with Panasonic for adding a gRPC API and SPEC-5235 - for Pipewire gstreamer updates to the remoting plug-in.

Profiles document can be found here.

  • 5/26
    • Document was started last week in Berlin. No updates since then. Will review next SAT call.
  • RTOS Confluence page
    • 9/5
      • AWS completed some code and is awaiting verification of the distributed architecture for heterogeneous multicore architecture. Need to finish verification and determine where the code should be upstreamed to.
      • Richard and Jerry discussed having Jerry and SDV EG fill in the Hypervisor cell part of the architecture.
    • 9/19
      • AWS code for heterogeneous multicore should ready to be published at the end of their current sprint.
      • Kazuki-san is working on the hypervisor cell topic. We would like to touch base with Paul M about these topics as well.
    • 10/5
      • Kazuki-san added the hypervisor cell topic in Confluence. We will review it at the next SAT.
    • 10/17
  • S4SK BSP
    • 7/23
      • We have the firmware that connects the CAN bus to the Linux code. Jan-Simon and Scott will test it out.
  • 2025 demo plan for Embedded World, ALS and more
    • No CES in January. AMM and Embedded World in late February and mid-March
    • Some ideas that were discussed
      • VirtIO loop back for IC containers
      • Make use of unified HMI. Need to port to AGL compositor to make use of the AGL applications
        • Talk to ICS about app ideas
      • App Store POC - need to get some more schedule details from Joel and determine how to do the store hosting
      • Update the gateway demo to use the S4 instead of reference hardware. Would also show off newest demo control panel. The AWS part might be hard or impossible.
  • AMM scheduled for Feb 26-27. We will have the F2F meeting on Feb 28. CFP is open
    • Honda would like to discuss how to accelerate open source functional safety development with Xen, Zephyr and AOSP during the F2F meeting
    • Walt will add the meeting to the wiki page and send an announcement on the mail list

Archived Meeting Minutes

Meeting minutes prior to 2025 can be found here

agl-sat-meetings.txt · Last modified: 2025/04/01 13:55 by wminer

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