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 ===== Meeting Notes for AGL IVI Expert Group =====
+==== November 14, 2024 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Scott, Joel, Marius, Jan-Simon
+Joel plans to roll an update to meta-flutter (3.24.4) to us for master to include in Salmon - will get to today
+Discussed [[https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/30509 | Gerrit 30509]]. Joel agreed to accept the patch as a workaround until his team has time to root cause the issue. Matt on Joel's team will start looking at this week.
+App Store POC
+   * Joel has been experimenting with Flatpak in his spare time.
+   * Very Good Ventures will be working on a desktop software catalog that talks to Flatpak and showcases the app store
+   * Toyota cannot host an app store open to the public. Need to confer with Jan-Simon about the requirements for hosting to see if we can use our AWS credits to host this.
+cgroupsv2 usage by IC EG
+   * discussed IC EG issue with using cgroupsv2 or sticking with v1 [[https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/30506 | gerrit 30506]].
+   * Joel and Scott recommend looking at [[https://github.com/containers/bubblewrap | Bubblewrap]] as a replacement for LXC.
+     * More links
+     * https://github.com/projectatomic/bwrap-oci
+     * https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree
+   * Another option is to carry a distro feature for the IC builds
+==== November 14, 2024 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Scott, Joel, Yamaguchi, Kurokawa
+Discussed [[https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/30509 | Gerrit 30509]]. Joel agreed to accept the patch as a workaround until his team has time to root cause the issue.
+Discussed recent meta-flutter updates to kirkstone in YP 4.0.22.  We are going to not pick up the update to kirkstone for now and leave Quillback at its current version of Flutter. We might consider rolling an uprev to Quillback of meta-flutter in the spring when Joel thinks it is worthwhile.
+Joel plans to roll an update to meta-flutter to us for master to include in Salmon.
+App Store POC
+   * Joel has been experimenting with Flatpak in his spare time.
+   * Very Good Ventures will be working on a desktop software catalog that talks to Flatpak and showcases the app store
+   * Toyota cannot host an app store open to the public. Need to confer with Jan-Simon about the requirements for hosting to see if we can use our AWS credits to host this.
+cgroupsv2 usage by IC EG
+   * discussed IC EG issue with using cgroupsv2 or sticking with v1 [[https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/30506 | gerrit 30506]].
+   * Joel and Scott recommend looking at [[https://github.com/containers/bubblewrap | Bubblewrap]] as a replacement for LXC.
+     * More links
+     * https://github.com/projectatomic/bwrap-oci
+     * https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree
+   * Another option is to carry a distro feature for the IC builds
+==== October 17, 2024 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Scott, Joel, Jan-Simon, Marius
+Next week's meeting is canceled due to ALS travel.
+We will try one more nighttime session (morning in Japan) and push an agenda in advance. If we get no attendees from Japan we will discontinue.
 ==== October 17, 2024 ====

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