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 ====== Archive of AGL System Architecture Team (SAT) Meetings ======
+==== 2017 Meeting Archive ====
-==== Previous Meetings ====
-Minutes for meetings prior to 2016 have been moved [[agl-sat-meetings:archived-meetings |here]].
+==== December 21, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Michael, Tanikawa, Fulup, Dominig, Loic,
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+     * 10/12 - Action item 1 completed in SPEC 859. Need to create a subtask for AI 2. Probably defer action on it until after EE.
+     * 11/9 - Action item 2 needs to be started
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+      * 10/12 - RC2 drop on 27 Oct. Need to get the code building for RC1. There are instabilities reported by Toyota/ Mentor that need to be addressed, plus new features. Will work to get more transparency into the development process.
+      * 11/9 - Latest in RC2. Homescreen and Window Manager work, but the HS may not launch automatically. Tanikawa using QEMU and it sometimes launches and most times does not.
+      * 11/23 - Discuss XDG, Window Manager, Homescreen, Chromium topic.
+        * Notes captured in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WKt2W4PjT6yqArvdNmFTwz1rMhajZN6q82-gjZ937GE/edit
+      * 12/7 - Tanikawa working on XDG proxy for next week in Yokohama.
+      * 12/21 - Tanikawa has the XDG proxy running. Will implement last required feature for tomorrow. IoT.bzh will test.
+        * Other issues: If an application crashes, the entire system needs to be rebooted. Root cause known and in progress (Mitsunari-san).
+        * Boot time slow due to interaction with IC. Root cause may be known and is being worked on by Toyota.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+     * 12/7 - Alex Bidnichenko (EPAM) submitted 12303 to create a telematics profile. Still being reviewed.
+     * 12/21 - Jan-Simon also started working on device profiles for FF. Should get something pushed early in the new year.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+   * SPEC-391 - Document Map Creation Process. Review latest comment.  What should SAT recommend?
+New:
+   * SPEC-1118 / SPEC-1036 - What to do about obsolete repos?
+   * After New Year
+     * Do we move some APIs from meta-agl-demo into meta-agl or meta-agl-extra?
+     * Revisit the development process and gerrit usage to make improvements based on lessons learned and expanded developer base.
+     * Review the scope of PulseAudio to minimize its usage to what is absolutely necessary. (SPEC-1220)
+     * Review Reference Hardware System Architecture document and consider its implications for the software architecture.
+     * Move RHSA to doc site.
+     * Document the documentation workflow and documentation versioning
+     * Propose a replacement for ask.automotivelinux.org. Probably stack overflow
+----------
+==== December 7, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Matt
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+     * 10/12 - Action item 1 completed in SPEC 859. Need to create a subtask for AI 2. Probably defer action on it until after EE.
+     * 11/9 - Action item 2 needs to be started
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+      * 10/12 - RC2 drop on 27 Oct. Need to get the code building for RC1. There are instabilities reported by Toyota/ Mentor that need to be addressed, plus new features. Will work to get more transparency into the development process.
+      * 11/9 - Latest in RC2. Homescreen and Window Manager work, but the HS may not launch automatically. Tanikawa using QEMU and it sometimes launches and most times does not.
+      * 11/23 - Discuss XDG, Window Manager, Homescreen, Chromium topic.
+        * Notes captured in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WKt2W4PjT6yqArvdNmFTwz1rMhajZN6q82-gjZ937GE/edit
+      * 12/7 - Tanikawa working on XDG proxy for next week in Yokohama.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+     * 12/7 - Alex Bidnichenko (EPAM) submitted 12303 to create a telematics profile. Still being reviewed.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+   * SPEC-391 - Document Map Creation Process. Review latest comment.  What should SAT recommend?
+New:
+==== November 23, 2017 ====
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+   * Discuss XDG, Window Manager, Homescreen, Chromium topic.
+     * Notes captured in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WKt2W4PjT6yqArvdNmFTwz1rMhajZN6q82-gjZ937GE/edit
+   * Only topic discussed.
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+     * 10/12 - Action item 1 completed in SPEC 859. Need to create a subtask for AI 2. Probably defer action on it until after EE.
+     * 11/9 - Action item 2 needs to be started
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+      * 10/12 - RC2 drop on 27 Oct. Need to get the code building for RC1. There are instabilities reported by Toyota/ Mentor that need to be addressed, plus new features. Will work to get more transparency into the development process.
+      * 11/9 - Latest in RC2. Homescreen and Window Manager work, but the HS may not launch automatically. Tanikawa using QEMU and it sometimes launches and most times does not.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+     * Update 9/14 - Need to get an update on this. Would like to resolve for EE.
+     * Update 9/28 - Jose is looking at moving to meta-security. Fulup will be meeting with Samsung at the GENIVI AMM to talk about the future of Tizen security.  Future of SMACK, is Casey still working on it?
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+     * 9/14 - Apps are currently being built. Need to differentiate between master and Dab then we can make them available publicly on the download server.
+     * 9/28 - Apps now have a dab branch. Jenkins jobs now build both master and dab branch for apps. Apps now placed on download server after a change is merged (agl/apps/...)
+     * 10/12 - Results are now being synched to https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/apps/  Not seeing apps for both master and dab, seems to be one or the other. Apps are populated into the directory when they are patched/built. Jan-Simon to check to see if dab and master are overwriting each other.
+     * 11/9 - No update
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+   * SPEC-391 - Document Map Creation Process. Review latest comment.  What should SAT recommend?
+New:
+---------
+==== November 9, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Michael, Tanikawa
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+     * 10/12 - Action item 1 completed in SPEC 859. Need to create a subtask for AI 2. Probably defer action on it until after EE.
+     * 11/9 - Action item 2 needs to be started
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+      * 10/12 - RC2 drop on 27 Oct. Need to get the code building for RC1. There are instabilities reported by Toyota/ Mentor that need to be addressed, plus new features. Will work to get more transparency into the development process.
+      * 11/9 - Latest in RC2. Homescreen and Window Manager work, but the HS may not launch automatically. Tanikawa using QEMU and it sometimes launches and most times does not.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+     * Update 9/14 - Need to get an update on this. Would like to resolve for EE.
+     * Update 9/28 - Jose is looking at moving to meta-security. Fulup will be meeting with Samsung at the GENIVI AMM to talk about the future of Tizen security.  Future of SMACK, is Casey still working on it?
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+     * 9/14 - Apps are currently being built. Need to differentiate between master and Dab then we can make them available publicly on the download server.
+     * 9/28 - Apps now have a dab branch. Jenkins jobs now build both master and dab branch for apps. Apps now placed on download server after a change is merged (agl/apps/...)
+     * 10/12 - Results are now being synched to https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/apps/  Not seeing apps for both master and dab, seems to be one or the other. Apps are populated into the directory when they are patched/built. Jan-Simon to check to see if dab and master are overwriting each other.
+     * 11/9 - No update
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+   * SPEC-391 - Document Map Creation Process. Review latest comment.  What should SAT recommend?
+New:
+   * Walt will get the new color scheme to Tanikawa-san.
+   *
+-----
+==== November 3, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Fulup, Stephane, Matt
+   * Had difficulties starting the call with Gotomeeting and sent out a cancelation after ten minutes. Got the call started and there were only the four of us on the call.
+     * Used the opportunity to discuss the current status of the audio for EE RC2
+     * Fulup got Mentor/Toyota to agree to remove their sound-manager in favor of the work being done by Konsulko to create a proper glue layer to the high level audio API.
+     * Konsulko code is work in progress
+     * Will not include sound-manager in RC2
+     * Possible RC3 at the end of next week prior to Yokohama F2F if we get the audio issue sorted out.
+     * Reviewed the IoT.bzh repo requests in Jira to sort out what is a binder and where things should go.
+   * **End of call for 11/3**
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+     * 10/12 - Action item 1 completed in SPEC 859. Need to create a subtask for AI 2. Probably defer action on it until after EE.
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+      * 10/12 - RC2 drop on 27 Oct. Need to get the code building for RC1. There are instabilities reported by Toyota/ Mentor that need to be addressed, plus new features. Will work to get more transparency into the development process.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+     * Update 9/14 - Need to get an update on this. Would like to resolve for EE.
+     * Update 9/28 - Jose is looking at moving to meta-security. Fulup will be meeting with Samsung at the GENIVI AMM to talk about the future of Tizen security.  Future of SMACK, is Casey still working on it?
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+     * 9/14 - Apps are currently being built. Need to differentiate between master and Dab then we can make them available publicly on the download server.
+     * 9/28 - Apps now have a dab branch. Jenkins jobs now build both master and dab branch for apps. Apps now placed on download server after a change is merged (agl/apps/...)
+     * 10/12 - Results are now being synched to https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/apps/  Not seeing apps for both master and dab, seems to be one or the other. Apps are populated into the directory when they are patched/built. Jan-Simon to check to see if dab and master are overwriting each other.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+New Business:
+* SPEC-391 - Document Map Creation Process. Review latest comment.  What should SAT recommend?
+==== October 12, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Kojima, Michael, Stephane, Kurokawa, Eugeny
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+     * 10/12 - Action item 1 completed in SPEC 859. Need to create a subtask for AI 2. Probably defer action on it until after EE.
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+      * 10/12 - RC2 drop on 27 Oct. Need to get the code building for RC1. There are instabilities reported by Toyota/ Mentor that need to be addressed, plus new features. Will work to get more transparency into the development process.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+     * Update 9/14 - Need to get an update on this. Would like to resolve for EE.
+     * Update 9/28 - Jose is looking at moving to meta-security. Fulup will be meeting with Samsung at the GENIVI AMM to talk about the future of Tizen security.  Future of SMACK, is Casey still working on it?
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+     * 9/14 - Apps are currently being built. Need to differentiate between master and Dab then we can make them available publicly on the download server.
+     * 9/28 - Apps now have a dab branch. Jenkins jobs now build both master and dab branch for apps. Apps now placed on download server after a change is merged (agl/apps/...)
+     * 10/12 - Results are now being synched to https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/apps/  Not seeing apps for both master and dab, seems to be one or the other. Apps are populated into the directory when they are patched/built. Jan-Simon to check to see if dab and master are overwriting each other.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+New Business:
+* ELCE and FOSDEM
+------
+==== September 28, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Christian, Dominig, Kojima, Fulup, Frederic,
+Agenda:
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+     * 9/28 - Assigned action item to Romain (SPEC-883 and SPEC-884)
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+      * 9/28 - Mentor currently debugging the code. Should be ready tomorrow. Will push source code to staging and recipe to meta-agl-devel so IoT.bzh can start to rebuild as well.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+      * 9/28 - No update
+  * Mechanism for keeping track of backports - Email topic started by Martin Kelly.
+    * Do all backports go into one repo or one one per architecture
+    * Documentation for keeping tracking of backports
+    * Move the discussion to a Jira ticket.
+    * Incorporate into the layer re-organization
+    * 8/3 - SPEC-802 created
+    * 9/14 - SPEC-802 discussion resulted in SPEC-879 to gather backports and implement as part of SPEC-145
+    * 9/28 - Plan in motion. Can close for SAT
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+    * 9/24 - No ticket
+  * Graphics EG - Weston version for EE upgrades to 2.0 which is part of pyro (YP 2.3).
+     * Renesas Gen 3 board
+       * Officially supports Yocto 2.1 (korgoth).
+       * IoT.bzh ported the the BSP to morty (Weston 1.11)  for DD.
+       * Expect that the next official Renesas BSP will be for morty.
+       * IoT.bzh expects to take that version and provide pyro (Weston 2.0) support for Gen 3.
+     * Porter probably will not be supported for EE.
+     * Update 9/14
+       * Pyro branched merged to master
+       * Intel ok.
+       * TI video output needs to be checked
+       * RPI video output needs to be checked
+       * Renesas Gen 3 in progress
+       * Renesas Gen 2 failing gstreamer.
+     * Update 9/24
+       * Everything is good except Porter. Waiting for response from Renesas on their plan for the Porter. Can close this for SAT.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+     * Update 9/28 - subtask SPEC-876, SPEC-921 in progress. SDK needs to be built for the three machine types (ARM 64, ARM 32, Intel) and the app developer will choose the SDK version to download.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+     * Update 9/14 - Need to get an update on this. Would like to resolve for EE.
+     * Update 9/28 - Jose is looking at moving to meta-security. Fulup will be meeting with Samsung at the GENIVI AMM to talk about the future of Tizen security.  Future of SMACK, is Casey still working on it?
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+     * 9/24 - No work yet. Want to revisit before AMM, ELCE.  Set up meeting for next Wednesday. Start a new diagram on draw.io.
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+     * 9/14 - Apps are currently being built. Need to differentiate between master and Dab then we can make them available publicly on the download server.
+     * 9/28 - Apps now have a dab branch. Jenkins jobs now build both master and dab branch for apps. Apps now placed on download server after a change is merged (agl/apps/...)
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+     * 9/28 - Dominig to create ticket.
+New Business:
+* ELCE and FOSDEM
+==== September 14, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Aurelian, Kurokawa
+Agenda:
+   * SPEC-859 - Include and Ship libraries that applications need that are not part of the core platform.
+     * 9/14 - See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-859?focusedCommentId=13946&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13946 | comment in Jira]] that summarizes the discussion and action items.
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Rework
+      * 9/14 - First working version of the window manager based on Toyota requirements will be available tomorrow. Mentor team is switching from European team to a team in Japan starting tomorrow.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+  * Mechanism for keeping track of backports - Email topic started by Martin Kelly.
+    * Do all backports go into one repo or one one per architecture
+    * Documentation for keeping tracking of backports
+    * Move the discussion to a Jira ticket.
+    * Incorporate into the layer re-organization
+    * 8/3 - SPEC-802 created
+    * 9/14 - SPEC-802 discussion resulted in SPEC-879 to gather backports and implement as part of SPEC-145
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+    * 9/12 - No ticket created yet.
+  * Graphics EG - Weston version for EE upgrades to 2.0 which is part of pyro (YP 2.3).
+     * Renesas Gen 3 board
+       * Officially supports Yocto 2.1 (korgoth).
+       * IoT.bzh ported the the BSP to morty (Weston 1.11)  for DD.
+       * Expect that the next official Renesas BSP will be for morty.
+       * IoT.bzh expects to take that version and provide pyro (Weston 2.0) support for Gen 3.
+     * Porter probably will not be supported for EE.
+     * Update 9/14
+       * Pyro branched merged to master
+       * Intel ok.
+       * TI video output needs to be checked
+       * RPI video output needs to be checked
+       * Renesas Gen 3 in progress
+       * Renesas Gen 2 failing gstreamer.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+     * Update 9/14 - subtasks created for EE work to split out using binaries after EE
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+     * Update 9/14 - Need to get an update on this. Would like to resolve for EE.
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 6/8 - Ronan posted the App FW bindings for SUSE,Fedora, and Ubuntu  (see Jira comment for link). Need to request a high level public project rather than hosting it in Ronan's home.
+     * Update 9/14 - Issue closed.
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+     * 9/14 - Apps are currently being built. Need to differentiate between master and Dab then we can make them available publicly on the download server.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+     * 9/14 - no ticket
+New Business:
+==== August 31 , 2017 ====
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+==== August 24 , 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael F, Michael T, Tanibata, Fulup, Stephane, Eugen Friedrich, Sebastien, Tanikawa, Mizuno, Tiejun Chen
+Agenda:
+   * XDG-Shell and ivi-application-shell architecture review. (Michael T)
+     * Need to get slides with strict copyright notice removed
+==== August 17 , 2017 ====
+Attendees: Canceled
+==== August 3, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Aurelian, Tanikawa, Kusakabe,
+Agenda:
+    * Window Manager
+      * Document updated to version 2.4 on the wiki page by Hoshina-san but no one knows what the updates were. Walt will send an email to the mail list asking.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Received a proposal from Ashley for V2C EG
+      * Panasonic may participate in the EG. Tanikawa will check internally.
+  * Mechanism for keeping track of backports - Email topic started by Martin Kelly.
+    * Do all backports go into one repo or one one per architecture
+    * Documentation for keeping tracking of backports
+    * Move the discussion to a Jira ticket.
+    * Incorporate into the layer re-organization
+    * 8/3 - SPEC-802 created
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+    * 8/3 - Need Jira ticket created.
+  * Graphics EG - Weston version for EE upgrades to 2.0 which is part of pyro (YP 2.3).
+     * Renesas Gen 3 board
+       * Officially supports Yocto 2.1 (korgoth).
+       * IoT.bzh ported the the BSP to morty (Weston 1.11)  for DD.
+       * Expect that the next official Renesas BSP will be for morty.
+       * IoT.bzh expects to take that version and provide pyro (Weston 2.0) support for Gen 3.
+     * Porter probably will not be supported for EE.
+     * Dominig to confirm for Intel boards.
+     * Jan-Simon will check with Karthik and TI - no pyro branch yet, but they will add one
+     * Need information on other BSPs?
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+     * Update 8/3 - No update. Plan is to add this to master after update to pyro is complete.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 6/8 - Ronan posted the App FW bindings for SUSE,Fedora, and Ubuntu  (see Jira comment for link). Need to request a high level public project rather than hosting it in Ronan's home.
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+     * 8/2 - Tanikawa reviewed and thinks it is ok as is, but we probably need a different view of which services belong to the application framework and which ones are not available to the applications. Probably need different views of the architecture for audio, video, window system, and other major subsystems to indicate the which parts are included as application framework bindings and which areas systemd covers (OS layer).
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+     * 8/2 - Rewriting App builder CI jobs to run for dab and master. Will add the apps to a directory on the download server after that is complete.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+     * 8/2 - Need Jira ticket.
+New Business:
+   * Tanikawa asked about current (DD) homescreen and window manager maintenance. Tanikawa offered to help / take over maintenance existing home screen window manager.
+==== July 20, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Aurelian, Martin, Tanikawa, Kusakabe, Kurokawa, Dennis,
+  * Readout from [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|San Jose F2F meeting]]
+    * Audio
+    * Window Manager
+    * V2C EG
+  * Mechanism for keeping track of backports - Email topic started by Martin Kelly.
+    * Do all backports go into one repo or one one per architecture
+    * Documentation for keeping tracking of backports
+    * Move the discussion to a Jira ticket.
+    * Incorporate into the layer re-organization
+  * Dennis had a question about what steps are required to create a product from AGL. Is there some documentation on the steps that a company would need to take to create a head unit product from AGL.  Add this doc site. Create Jira ticket.
+  * Graphics EG - Weston version for EE upgrades to 2.0 which is part of pyro (YP 2.3).
+     * Renesas Gen 3 board
+       * Officially supports Yocto 2.1 (korgoth).
+       * IoT.bzh ported the the BSP to morty (Weston 1.11)  for DD.
+       * Expect that the next official Renesas BSP will be for morty.
+       * IoT.bzh expects to take that version and provide pyro (Weston 2.0) support for Gen 3.
+     * Porter probably will not be supported for EE.
+     * Dominig to confirm for Intel boards.
+     * Jan-Simon will check with Karthik and TI
+     * Need information on other BSPs?
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+     * Update 7/20 - Update on POC from Jan-Simon
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 6/8 - Ronan posted the App FW bindings for SUSE,Fedora, and Ubuntu  (see Jira comment for link). Need to request a high level public project rather than hosting it in Ronan's home.
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+New Business:
+------
+==== July 6, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Isogai, Dennis, Kurokawa, Michael F, Stephane, Sebastien, Tanikawa,
+   * Graphics EG - Weston version for EE upgrades to 2.0 which is part of pyro (YP 2.3).
+     * Renesas Gen 3 board
+       * Officially supports Yocto 2.1 (korgoth).
+       * IoT.bzh ported the the BSP to morty (Weston 1.11)  for DD.
+       * Expect that the next official Renesas BSP will be for morty.
+       * IoT.bzh expects to take that version and provide pyro (Weston 2.0) support for Gen 3.
+     * Porter probably will not be supported for EE.
+     * Dominig to confirm for Intel boards.
+     * Jan-Simon will check with Karthik and TI
+     * Need information on other BSPs?
+   * Release management question - CC 3.0.4 pulled in the tip of the poky branch rather than an official release. Should we limit upstream code to official releases plus cherry picked backported fixes or continue with the current policy?
+     * SAT agrees to match point releases from upstream repos rather than picking up random patches from upstream that may not be tested as working.
+   * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+     * Update 7/6 - Jan-Simon started a POC on github. https://github.com/dl9pf/layer-reorg and invited participation from members.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * Agenda for San Jose F2F
+     * Yocto Layers and Device Profiles
+     * Audio architecture for EE and beyond (App FW Binding or GENIVI audio manager path)
+       * Fulup to detail progress on App FW Binding and UNICENS progress since the Karlsruhe F2F
+       * Isogai
+     * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+     * V2C
+     * User Identity
+     * Application persistent data (per identity and security considerations)
+     * Toyota to present the window manager API via video conference
+     * CES 2018
+   * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.  SPEC-588 is the primary task in the Epic.
+       * Update 6/8 - For DD we want to incorporate the reference low level binding for OBD II along with a reference app, and documentation that describes what needs to be done to create your own binding.  Discussed a mechanism to provide a "preview" of code that is proposed to eventually become part of the platform as it matures in a later release. Candidate include ViWi, UNICENS 2 audio, and low-level audio.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development.
+     * SPEC-537 - Yocto Layer reorganization - Need to complete requirements first.
+     * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491)- Update 4/27 - Jan-Simon has a sandbox in gerrit that can be looked at.
+     * Update 4/27 - Setting up a meeting for next Wednesday to discuss. Added notes to SPEC-219 for requirements.
+     * Update 5/11 - See SPEC-145 for updates on latest meetings. Next meeting planned for 22 May.
+     * Update 6/8 - BoF held last week during ALS. Results documented in Jira. F2F meeting planned in Vannes for next week.
+     * Update 6/22 -
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 6/8 - Ronan posted the App FW bindings for SUSE,Fedora, and Ubuntu  (see Jira comment for link). Need to request a high level public project rather than hosting it in Ronan's home.
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+New Business:
+------
+==== June 22, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Aurelian, Fulup, Sebastien, Tanikawa, Stephane, Dominig, Kusakabe, Michael F, Dennis
+   * Jan-Simon reviewed output from Vannes F2F meeting last week concerning device profiles and Yocto layer restructuring. We will have a follow up in two weeks during the SAT call. Assuming we agree to a plan in San Jose or within a week or afterwards, we will implement the changes after the update to the YP pyro branch on master.
+   * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+   * Agenda for San Jose F2F
+     * Yocto Layers and Device Profiles
+     * Audio architecture for EE and beyond (App FW Binding or GENIVI audio manager path)
+       * Fulup to detail progress on App FW Binding and UNICENS progress since the Karlsruhe F2F
+       * Isogai
+     * Roadmap for EE and 2018
+     * V2C
+     * User Identity
+     * Application persistent data (per identity and security considerations)
+     * Toyota to present the window manager API via video conference
+     * CES 2018
+   * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.  SPEC-588 is the primary task in the Epic.
+       * Update 6/8 - For DD we want to incorporate the reference low level binding for OBD II along with a reference app, and documentation that describes what needs to be done to create your own binding.  Discussed a mechanism to provide a "preview" of code that is proposed to eventually become part of the platform as it matures in a later release. Candidate include ViWi, UNICENS 2 audio, and low-level audio.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development.
+     * SPEC-537 - Yocto Layer reorganization - Need to complete requirements first.
+     * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491)- Update 4/27 - Jan-Simon has a sandbox in gerrit that can be looked at.
+     * Update 4/27 - Setting up a meeting for next Wednesday to discuss. Added notes to SPEC-219 for requirements.
+     * Update 5/11 - See SPEC-145 for updates on latest meetings. Next meeting planned for 22 May.
+     * Update 6/8 - BoF held last week during ALS. Results documented in Jira. F2F meeting planned in Vannes for next week.
+     * Update 6/22 -
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 6/8 - Ronan posted the App FW bindings for SUSE,Fedora, and Ubuntu  (see Jira comment for link). Need to request a high level public project rather than hosting it in Ronan's home.
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE (or later). Jira issue?
+New Business:
+==== June 8, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Fulup, Stephane, Sebastien, Kusakabe, Dominig
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+       * Update 4/27 - Create a primary epic called "Enable CAN messaging in AGL Platform". Make SPEC-428 a subtask and should make SPEC-137 a subtask. Also may need to update [[start:using-jira|Jira for AGL]]
+       * Update 5/11 - Created Epic - SPEC-588 and linked to SPEC-428 and SPEC-137
+       * Update 5/25 - No update. No more issues have been added to the epic.
+       * Update 6/8 - For DD we want to incorporate the reference low level binding for OBD II along with a reference app, and documentation that describes what needs to be done to create your own binding.  Discussed a mechanism to provide a "preview" of code that is proposed to eventually become part of the platform as it matures in a later release. Candidate include ViWi, UNICENS 2 audio, and low-level audio.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development.
+     * SPEC-537 - Yocto Layer reorganization - Need to complete requirements first.
+     * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491)- Update 4/27 - Jan-Simon has a sandbox in gerrit that can be looked at.
+     * Update 4/27 - Setting up a meeting for next Wednesday to discuss. Added notes to SPEC-219 for requirements.
+     * Update 5/11 - See SPEC-145 for updates on latest meetings. Next meeting planned for 22 May.
+     * Update 6/8 - BoF held last week during ALS. Results documented in Jira. F2F meeting planned in Vannes for next week.
+   * SPEC-511 - replace 01org/meta-intel-iot-security layer:
+     * Update 6/7 from App FW meeting- Dominig has spoken to the maintainer of Yocto meta-security (Armin Kuster) which has SELinux and TPM and we may have home there. We could possibly move the recipes that we use from meta-iot-security
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 6/8 - Ronan posted the App FW bindings for SUSE,Fedora, and Ubuntu  (see Jira comment for link). Need to request a high level public project rather than hosting it in Ronan's home.
+New Business:
+   * Need to define EE and 2018 roadmap at the [[agl-distro:jul2017-f2f|face to face meeting next month]].
+   * Toyota (Hoshina-san) uploaded new App FW/ Window manager document to wiki. See [[windowmanager|Window Manager]]
+   * Need a new/revised public architecture diagram. See https://www.draw.io/#G0ByWQ8KVvCEUrMUQ1OFBWcm9EV1E for version from Spec 1.0
+   * Jan-Simon: We are now building Apps in CI. Should we make these publicly available? Will be put in a folder, but not advertise it until we get a handle on how well it works. Can they pre-built demo apps be made available in DD?  Revisit this in two weeks.
+   * Dominig: Requirements for deep sleep, shutdown, and suspend/resume.  Roadmap item for EE++. Jira issue?
+------
+==== May 25, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Tanikawa, Aurelian
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+       * Update 4/27 - Create a primary epic called "Enable CAN messaging in AGL Platform". Make SPEC-428 a subtask and should make SPEC-137 a subtask. Also may need to update [[start:using-jira|Jira for AGL]]
+       * Update 5/11 - Created Epic - SPEC-588 and linked to SPEC-428 and SPEC-137
+       * Update 5/25 - No update. No more issues have been added to the epic.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development.
+     * SPEC-537 - Yocto Layer reorganization - Need to complete requirements first.
+     * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491)- Update 4/27 - Jan-Simon has a sandbox in gerrit that can be looked at.
+     * Update 4/27 - Setting up a meeting for next Wednesday to discuss. Added notes to SPEC-219 for requirements.
+     * Update 5/11 - See SPEC-145 for updates on latest meetings. Next meeting planned for 22 May
+   * SPEC-511 - 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 5/11 - Nothing to report
+New Business:
+------
+==== May 11, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Aurelian, Stephane
+Agenda:
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+       * Update 4/27 - Create a primary epic called "Enable CAN messaging in AGL Platform". Make SPEC-428 a subtask and should make SPEC-137 a subtask. Also may need to update [[start:using-jira|Jira for AGL]]
+       * Update 5/11 - Created Epic - SPEC-588 and linked to SPEC-428 and SPEC-137
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development.
+     * SPEC-537 - Yocto Layer reorganization - Need to complete requirements first.
+     * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491)- Update 4/27 - Jan-Simon has a sandbox in gerrit that can be looked at.
+     * Update 4/27 - Setting up a meeting for next Wednesday to discuss. Added notes to SPEC-219 for requirements.
+     * Update 5/11 - See SPEC-145 for updates on latest meetings. Next meeting planned for 22 May
+   * SPEC-511 - 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+   * SPEC-538 - Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 5/11 - Nothing to report
+New Business:
+-------
+==== April 27, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Sebastien, Tanikawa, Michael, Jens, Mikko, Kusakabe
+Agenda:
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+       * Update 4/27 - Create a primary epic called "Enable CAN messaging in AGL Platform". Make SPEC-428 a subtask and should make SPEC-137 a subtask. Also may need to update [[start:using-jira|Jira for AGL]]
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SDL integration. Layer proposed by this week which bypasses security in App FW. Need to follow up with Ford and EB
+   * SPEC-145 - Yocto Layer restructuring/ headless device profile
+     * Need to complete SPEC-219 - Requirements for Telematics Device Profile
+     * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development.
+     * SPEC-537 - Yocto Layer reorganization - Need to complete requirements first.
+     * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491)- Update 4/27 - Jan-Simon has a sandbox in gerrit that can be looked at.
+     * Update 4/27 - Setting up a meeting for next Wednesday to discuss. Added notes to SPEC-219 for requirements.
+   * SPEC-511 - 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+   * Fulup: Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 3/30 - Need Jira issue. Stephane filled us in on some progress they have made.
+     * Update 4/27 - Nothing to report.
+New Business:
+-------
+==== April 13, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jens, Jan-Simon, Tanikawa
+Agenda:
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SDL integration. Layer proposed by this week which bypasses security in App FW. Need to follow up with Ford and EB
+   * SPEC-459: Move community board support files and recipes to meta-agl-devel.
+     * AI for Jan-Simon and Stephane to work out the best structure for this.
+     * Update 3/22 - Now that SPEC-411 has been merged we can move forward with this.
+     * Update 3/29 - Work will start next month.
+     * **Update 4/13 - Made a subtask of SPEC-145 to be completed as part of layer restructuring.**
+   * SPEC-458 -01org/meta-security-isafw: upstream broken on morty
+     * Breaks isafw reports in snapshots, had to revert to old revision
+     * Update 3/30 - Dominig not able to reproduce, but it may be a set up issue in his environment. Jan-Simon is reenabling in the snapshots to see if the issue is still there.
+     * https://build.automotivelinux.org/view/agl-ci-jobs/job/sandbox-snapshot-master/338/
+     * **Update - 4/11 - Resolved for now.**
+   * SPEC-511 - 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+   * SPEC-145 - Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development. (SPEC-145)
+   * Fulup: Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 3/30 - Need Jira issue. Stephane filled us in on some progress they have made.
+New Business:
+**   * Reworking of Yocto layers for EE to accommodate device profiles (SPEC-537). Made a subtask of SPEC-145 to be completed as part of layer restructuring.
+   * DEFAULTTUNE (SPEC-491), see email on ML. Made a subtask of SPEC-145 to be completed as part of layer restructuring.**
+--------
+==== March 30, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Dominig, Jens, Kusakabe, Stephane
+Agenda:
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SDL integration. Layer proposed by this week which bypasses security in App FW. Need to follow up with Ford and EB
+   * SPEC-459: Move community board support files and recipes to meta-agl-devel.
+     * AI for Jan-Simon and Stephane to work out the best structure for this.
+     * Update 3/22 - Now that SPEC-411 has been merged we can move forward with this.
+     * Update 3/29 - Work will start next month.
+   * SPEC-458 -01org/meta-security-isafw: upstream broken on morty
+     * Breaks isafw reports in snapshots, had to revert to old revision
+     * Update 3/30 - Dominig not able to reproduce, but it may be a set up issue in his environment. Jan-Simon is reenabling in the snapshots to see if the issue is still there.
+     * https://build.automotivelinux.org/view/agl-ci-jobs/job/sandbox-snapshot-master/338/
+   * SPEC-511 - 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+   * SPEC-145 - Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development. (SPEC-145)
+   * Fulup: Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+     * Update 3/30 - Need Jira issue. Stephane filled us in on some progress they have made.
+New Business:
+==== March 22, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Stephane, Jens, Tanikawa, Gabriel
+Agenda:
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SDL integration. Layer proposed by this week which bypasses security in App FW. Need to follow up with Ford and EB
+   * SPEC-448: Move App FW to meta-agl from meta-agl-extra. Decision by SC by 22 Mar. ** Approved without comment from SC. **
+   * SPEC-459: Move community board support files and recipes to meta-agl-devel.
+     * AI for Jan-Simon and Stephane to work out the best structure for this.
+     * Update 3/22 - Now that SPEC-411 has been merged we can move forward with this.
+   * SPEC-458 -01org/meta-security-isafw: upstream broken on morty
+(breaks isafw reports in snapshots, had to revert to old revision)
+--> needs someone with cycles to fix/push patch upstream
+   * 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -
+import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+--> mid/long term support issue!
+New Business:
+   * SPEC-474 - Add iotivity-node to distro
+   * Agenda for F2F
+   * Stephane: Need for headless profile to support Telematics and Renesas use cases where we cannot redistribute graphics drivers so that we can enable app development. (SPEC-145)
+   * Fulup: Need for developers to be able to develop AGL applications for a native Linux environment rather than running QEMU.
+==== March, 2 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Jens, Stephane, Fulup (The Fab Five)
+Agenda:
+   * **Release Schedule ** [[schedule|Now posted on Wiki]]
+     * Reviewed schedule and made some updates to be posted
+     * Need to review the Jira Epics and make sure we them up to date. Will use Vehicle Signaling as a test case for multi-release project.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+     * Fulup is an invited guest to W3C meetings but has no standing. W3C is looking to settle on the JLR standard (VSS) in the April time-frame. Initiate was started from GENIVI.
+     * AGL should investigate which standards body to use for normalizing vehicle to cloud communications. W3C, Oasis, OpenID are possibilities.
+     * Current effort at IoT.bzh is focused on OpenXC for inside vehicle, VIWI for web interface, and OpenID Connect for authentication on the cloud.
+     * Kick up to Steering Committee as well.
+   * SDL integration. Layer proposed by this week which bypasses security in App FW. Need to follow up with Ford and EB
+New Business:
+   * Move App FW to meta-agl from meta-agl-extra
+   * SPEC-459: Move community board support files and recipes to meta-agl-devel.
+     * AI for Jan-Simon and Stephane to work out the best structure for this.
+   * SPEC-458 -01org/meta-security-isafw: upstream broken on morty
+(breaks isafw reports in snapshots, had to revert to old revision)
+--> needs someone with cycles to fix/push patch upstream
+   * 01org/meta-intel-iot-security: upstream removed cynara support in 3936bc3 -
+import recipe locally ? fork repo ? maintainer ?
+--> mid/long term support issue!
+-------
+==== February 16, 2017 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Jens, Fulup
+Agenda:
+     * Framework Updates for 2017
+       * Message Signaling - [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/message-signaling | Wiki page]] to document the changes. Plan is to go ahead with this architecture.
+       * Upcoming Improvements to App Framework
+         * Reworking the App FW to use systemd for control of apps (Complete for CC)
+         * Introduce cgroups (Will be included in CC. Additional work will be needed for DD)
+         * Namespace (Will be included in Daring Dab)
+         * Basically containerizing applications (LXC) (Requires namespace so DD or later)
+         * Notification service (Dominig presenting at AMM a proposal)
+         * I18 mechanism to broadcast events and manage resource files across applications.
+         * Sharing resources (bindings, libraries, etc) between applications needs a larger discussion
+         * Identity and user management
+         * Key management for app installation and the manifest that gives the rights within cynara.
+         * First boot app installation mechanism (SPEC-317)
+         * Building apps in CI and providing snapshot builds.
+         * Consistent templates and documentation for creation of apps and widgets
+         * Documentation of how to convert legacy apps to AGL Apps.
+         * Updating skins across applications (more Graphics and UI EG than App FW)
+         * Consent management for managing resources and applications. Examples include payments, enabling LBS. Should be done securely per application and user
+   * Other 2017 Roadmap
+     * CIAT
+       * Merge our fork of JTA back into Fuego to get continuous support.
+       * New reference boards added to Lava and CI system
+       * Publish and evaluate test results
+       * Ensure that CI system builds and checks patches for optional features.  Example of recent patches to Iotivity that did not get built by the CI system because the feature was not enabled.
+       * Static analysis of code
+     * Architecture for vehicle signaling. Getting CAN reference data from OEMs.
+     * Define success for 2017 in terms of AGL being ready for production and what that looks like.
+       * Quality improvements - "We don't have to have everything, but what we have needs to work."
+       * Documentation
+       * Testing and published test results
+     * Virtualization / Containers
+       * New ARMv8 platforms are powerful enough to benefit from virtualization
+       * New Virtualization Expert Group
+         * a new webpage will be created on the wiki. A number of conference calls and face to face meetings will be set to define a possible roadmap for this EG.
+         * a set of meeting slots will be proposed (the idea is to start after CES2017). Walt will prepare the needed meeting infrastructure when everything will be set.
+         * Virtual Open Systems, plans to develop a specific PoC on this matter in 2017 (KVM hypervisor and TrustZone).
+     * API tools and common description of APIs along with documentation
+     * Expand binder API capability to an RTOS to prove interoperability of AGL
+     * Device profiles
+     * Homescreen improvements with secure APIs
+     * Speech Services API and service binder
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/eg-app-fw/meetings#november_23_2016 | latest meeting minutes.]]
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation. ** Done. Recommendation on CES demo wiki page. **
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **Release Schedule **
+   *FIXME Update for DD and EE as well CC patch releases
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * Dead for now based on BoF. Device manufacturers not really interested. Service providers seem more interested.
+Miscellaneous:
+   * **Hypervisor**
+     * Open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Jailhouse
+       * Ronan doing some work testing Jailhouse on RCar Gen 3. Collaborating with Siemens.
+     * Also [[bof-hypervisor|Abstract]]. Should consider transitioning to an EG page where we can gather all of the relevant information.
+New Business:
+   * Can we collect usage information by including a "First Boot" application that requests the user to collect anonymous information about how the system is being used.
+   * Need to review W3C proposals from VW and JLR. Setting up another call to make a decision on which one to pursue.
+   * SDL integration. Layer proposed by this week which bypasses security in App FW. Need to follow up with Ford and EB.
+-------
+==== January 19, 2017====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Jens, Dominig
+Agenda:
+     * Framework Updates for 2017
+       * Message Signaling - [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/message-signaling | Wiki page]] to document the changes. Plan is to go ahead with this architecture.
+       * Upcoming Improvements to App Framework
+         * Reworking the App FW to use systemd for control of apps (Complete for CC)
+         * Introduce cgroups (Will be included in CC. Additional work will be needed for DD)
+         * Namespace (Will be included in Daring Dab)
+         * Basically containerizing applications (LXC) (Requires namespace so DD or later)
+         * Notification service (Dominig presenting at AMM a proposal)
+         * I18 mechanism to broadcast events and manage resource files across applications.
+         * Sharing resources (bindings, libraries, etc) between applications needs a larger discussion
+         * Identity and user management
+         * Key management for app installation and the manifest that gives the rights within cynara.
+         * First boot app installation mechanism (SPEC-317)
+         * Building apps in CI and providing snapshot builds.
+         * Consistent templates and documentation for creation of apps and widgets
+         * Documentation of how to convert legacy apps to AGL Apps.
+         * Updating skins across applications (more Graphics and UI EG than App FW)
+         * Consent management for managing resources and applications. Examples include payments, enabling LBS. Should be done securely per application and user
+   * Other 2017 Roadmap
+     * CIAT
+       * Merge our fork of JTA back into Fuego to get continuous support.
+       * New reference boards added to Lava and CI system
+       * Publish and evaluate test results
+       * Ensure that CI system builds and checks patches for optional features.  Example of recent patches to Iotivity that did not get built by the CI system because the feature was not enabled.
+       * Static analysis of code
+     * Architecture for vehicle signaling. Getting CAN reference data from OEMs.
+     * Define success for 2017 in terms of AGL being ready for production and what that looks like.
+       * Quality improvements - "We don't have to have everything, but what we have needs to work."
+       * Documentation
+       * Testing and published test results
+     * Virtualization / Containers
+       * New ARMv8 platforms are powerful enough to benefit from virtualization
+       * New Virtualization Expert Group
+         * a new webpage will be created on the wiki. A number of conference calls and face to face meetings will be set to define a possible roadmap for this EG.
+         * a set of meeting slots will be proposed (the idea is to start after CES2017). Walt will prepare the needed meeting infrastructure when everything will be set.
+         * Virtual Open Systems, plans to develop a specific PoC on this matter in 2017 (KVM hypervisor and TrustZone).
+     * API tools and common description of APIs along with documentation
+     * Expand binder API capability to an RTOS to prove interoperability of AGL
+     * Device profiles
+     * Homescreen improvements with secure APIs
+     * Walt will start an email thread to collect ideas for 2017 roadmap. Need to complete the roadmap update by the end of January for the AMM.
+     * Speech Services API and service binder
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/eg-app-fw/meetings#november_23_2016 | latest meeting minutes.]]
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation. ** Done. Recommendation on CES demo wiki page. **
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * Blowfish 2.0.4 released.  Blowfish 2.0.5 in January should be final Blowfish update
+     * CC schedule announced
+       * RC 1 - At the conclusion of the integration session we need all updates to be submitted by the end of the day Sunday December 18.  We will use the December 18 snapshot build as the basis for our RC1.  Development will continue on the master branch.
+       * RC 2 - We will create RC 2 on or about December 28. Depending on how settled the code is, we may create the Charming Chinook release branch at this point or continue to work on Master. That decision will be made by Jan-Simon and Walt.
+       * CC Release - Scheduled for January 6. Charming Chinook release branch will be tagged and released. New work on master will be for the Daring Dab release.
+     * Lava up and running for Porter.
+     * For 2017 can we combine API and platform level testing in one front end UI? graphana.org or similar?
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * No news
+Miscellaneous:
+   * **Hypervisor**
+     * Open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Jailhouse
+       * Ronan doing some work testing Jailhouse on RCar Gen 3. Collaborating with Siemens.
+     * Also [[bof-hypervisor|Abstract]]. Should consider transitioning to an EG page where we can gather all of the relevant information.
+New Business:
+   * Can we collect usage information by including a "First Boot" application that requests the user to collect anonymous information about how the system is being used.
+==== 2016 Meeting Archive ====
+==== December 22, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Fulup, Jens, Michele
+Agenda:
+  * Application Framework issues for SAT
+    * Roadmap for 2017 - namespace, cgroup, containerization, [[https://criu.org/Main_Page|criu]]-ization  (see App FW EG)
+    * Sharing resources (bindings, libraries, etc) between applications needs a larger discussion
+    * Updating skins across applications (more Graphics and UI EG than App FW)
+    * I18 mechanism to broadcast events and manage resource files across applications.
+    * Consent management for managing resources and applications. Examples include payments, enabling LBS. Should be done securely per application and user
+   * Other 2017 Roadmap
+     * Architecture for vehicle signaling. Getting CAN reference data from OEMs.
+     * Define success for 2017 in terms of AGL being ready for production and what that looks like.
+       * Quality improvements - "We don't have to have everything, but what we have needs to work."
+       * Documentation
+       * Testing and published test results
+     * Virtualization / Containers
+       * New ARMv8 platforms are powerful enough to benefit from virtualization
+       * New Virtualization Expert Group
+         * a new webpage will be created on the wiki. A number of conference calls and face to face meetings will be set to define a possible roadmap for this EG.
+         * a set of meeting slots will be proposed (the idea is to start after CES2017). Walt will prepare the needed meeting infrastructure when everything will be set.
+         * Virtual Open Systems, plans to develop a specific PoC on this matter in 2017 (KVM hypervisor and TrustZone).
+     * API tools and common description of APIs along with documentation
+     * Expand binder API capability to an RTOS to prove interoperability of AGL
+     * Device profiles
+     * Homescreen improvements with secure APIs
+     * Walt will start an email thread to collect ideas for 2017 roadmap. Need to complete the roadmap update by the end of January for the AMM.
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/eg-app-fw/meetings#november_23_2016 | latest meeting minutes.]]
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation. ** Done. Recommendation on CES demo wiki page. **
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * Blowfish 2.0.4 released.  Blowfish 2.0.5 in January should be final Blowfish update
+     * CC schedule announced
+       * RC 1 - At the conclusion of the integration session we need all updates to be submitted by the end of the day Sunday December 18.  We will use the December 18 snapshot build as the basis for our RC1.  Development will continue on the master branch.
+       * RC 2 - We will create RC 2 on or about December 28. Depending on how settled the code is, we may create the Charming Chinook release branch at this point or continue to work on Master. That decision will be made by Jan-Simon and Walt.
+       * CC Release - Scheduled for January 6. Charming Chinook release branch will be tagged and released. New work on master will be for the Daring Dab release.
+     * Lava up and running for Porter.
+     * For 2017 can we combine API and platform level testing in one front end UI? graphana.org or similar?
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * No news
+Miscellaneous:
+   * **Hypervisor**
+     * Open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Jailhouse
+       * Ronan doing some work testing Jailhouse on RCar Gen 3. Collaborating with Siemens.
+     * Also [[bof-hypervisor|Abstract]]. Should consider transitioning to an EG page where we can gather all of the relevant information.
+New Business:
+   * Can we collect usage information by including a "First Boot" application that requests the user to collect anonymous information about how the system is being used.
+==== December 8, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Fulup, Jens, Dennis, Michele, Stephane
+Agenda:
+  * Application Framework issues for SAT
+    * Roadmap for 2017 - namespace, cgroup, containerization, [[https://criu.org/Main_Page|criu]]-ization  (see App FW EG)
+    * Sharing resources (bindings, libraries, etc) between applications needs a larger discussion
+    * Updating skins across applications (more Graphics and UI EG than App FW)
+    * I18 mechanism to broadcast events and manage resource files across applications.
+    * Consent management for managing resources and applications. Examples include payments, enabling LBS. Should be done securely per application and user
+   * Other 2017 Roadmap
+     * Architecture for vehicle signaling. Getting CAN reference data from OEMs.
+     * Define success for 2017 in terms of AGL being ready for production and what that looks like.
+       * Quality improvements - "We don't have to have everything, but what we have needs to work."
+       * Documentation
+       * Testing and published test results
+     * Virtualization / Containers
+       * New ARMv8 platforms are powerful enough to benefit from virtualization
+       * New Virtualization Expert Group
+         * a new webpage will be created on the wiki. A number of conference calls and face to face meetings will be set to define a possible roadmap for this EG.
+         * a set of meeting slots will be proposed (the idea is to start after CES2017). Walt will prepare the needed meeting infrastructure when everything will be set.
+         * Virtual Open Systems, plans to develop a specific PoC on this matter in 2017 (KVM hypervisor and TrustZone).
+     * API tools and common description of APIs along with documentation
+     * Expand binder API capability to an RTOS to prove interoperability of AGL
+     * Device profiles
+     * Homescreen improvements with secure APIs
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/eg-app-fw/meetings#november_23_2016 | latest meeting minutes.]]
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation. ** Done. Recommendation on CES demo wiki page. **
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * Blowfish 2.0.4 released.  Blowfish 2.0.5 in January should be final Blowfish update
+     * CC schedule announced
+       * RC 1 - At the conclusion of the integration session we need all updates to be submitted by the end of the day Sunday December 18.  We will use the December 18 snapshot build as the basis for our RC1.  Development will continue on the master branch.
+       * RC 2 - We will create RC 2 on or about December 28. Depending on how settled the code is, we may create the Charming Chinook release branch at this point or continue to work on Master. That decision will be made by Jan-Simon and Walt.
+       * CC Release - Scheduled for January 6. Charming Chinook release branch will be tagged and released. New work on master will be for the Daring Dab release.
+     * Lava up and running for Porter.
+     * For 2017 can we combine API and platform level testing in one front end UI? graphana.org or similar?
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * No news
+Miscellaneous:
+   * **Hypervisor**
+     * Open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Jailhouse
+       * Ronan doing some work testing Jailhouse on RCar Gen 3. Collaborating with Siemens.
+     * Also [[bof-hypervisor|Abstract]]. Should consider transitioning to an EG page where we can gather all of the relevant information.
+New Business:
+   * Can we collect usage information by including a "First Boot" application that requests the user to collect anonymous information about how the system is being used.
+------
+==== November 24, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Fulup, Kaz, Tanikawa, Jens
+Agenda:
+  * Application Framework issues for SAT
+    * Roadmap for 2017 - namespace, cgroup, containerization, [[https://criu.org/Main_Page|criu]]-ization  (see App FW EG)
+    * Sharing resources (bindings, libraries, etc) between applications needs a larger discussion
+    * Updating skins across applications (more Graphics and UI EG than App FW)
+    * I18 mechanism to broadcast events and manage resource files across applications.
+    * Consent management for managing resources and applications. Examples include payments, enabling LBS. Should be done securely per application and user
+   * Other 2017 Roadmap
+     * Architecture for vehicle signaling. Getting CAN reference data from OEMs.
+     * Define success for 2017 in terms of AGL being ready for production and what that looks like.
+       * Quality improvements - "We don't have to have everything, but what we have needs to work."
+       * Documentation
+       * Testing and published test results
+     * Virtualization / Containers
+     * Expand binder API capability to an RTOS to prove interoperability of AGL
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/eg-app-fw/meetings#november_23_2016 | latest meeting minutes.]]
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation. ** Done. Recommendation on CES demo wiki page. **
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * Blowfish 2.0.4 upcoming.
+     * Lava up and running for Porter,
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * No news
+Miscellaneous:
+   * **Hypervisor**
+     * Open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Jailhouse
+       * Ronan doing some work testing Jailhouse on RCar Gen 3. Collaborating with Siemens.
+     * Also [[bof-hypervisor|Abstract]]. Should consider transitioning to an EG page where we can gather all of the relevant information.
+New Business:
+   * Suggestion from Dominig to change branching strategy to align to Yocto strategy/ naming conventions. Walt suggested starting an email thread to see what problems people might be having and to add branching strategy to the "Contributing to AGL" wiki page.
+-----
+==== November 10, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Stephane, Tanikawa, Kusakabe, Fulup, Jan-Simon, Dennis, John, Michael, Michele
+Agenda:
+   * Qt 5.7 for CC - transition completed by Tanikawa
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See latest meeting minutes.
+     * FIXME replace Security Blueprint Update
+       * First draft targeted for Nov 15. Release for CES. (At risk)
+       * John O'Connor completing a draft of the scope of the document for the next EG meeting ** Not complete **
+       * Fulup asked the SAT to provide any customer questions/inputs from members to make sure address those in the document.
+     * App FW Update (Fulup)
+       * IoT.bzh needs green light to publish the documents they have created from Renesas. ** Done. **
+       * Need some more documentation on the wiki to allow people to proceed in using the App Framework. ** Done. See https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/app-framework) **
+       * Homescreen packaged with App FW for CC. ** Done. Ready for F2F meeting.  **
+       * App FW is requirement for CES Apps so that is one way we will use to test the viability of the app framework.
+       * Repackaging of existing CES/ALS demos is part of testing.
+       * Current work
+         * Reworking the App FW to use systemd for control of apps (Complete for CC)
+         * Introduce cgroups (Will be included in CC. Additional work will be needed for DD)
+         * Namespace (Will be included in Daring Dab)
+         * Basically containerizing applications (LXC) (Requires namespace so DD or later)
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation. ** Done. Recommendation on CES demo wiki page. **
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * Blowfish 2.0.3 release made this week.
+     * Lava up and running for Porter,
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * No news
+Miscellaneous:
+   * **Hypervisor**
+     * Open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Jailhouse
+       * Ronan doing some work testing Jailhouse on RCar Gen 3. Collaborating with Siemens.
+     * Also [[bof-hypervisor|Abstract]]. Should consider transitioning to an EG page where we can gather all of the relevant information.
+New Business:
+   * Suggestion from Dominig to change branching strategy to align to Yocto strategy/ naming conventions. Walt suggested starting an email thread to see what problems people might be having and to add branching strategy to the "Contributing to AGL" wiki page.
+-----
+==== October 27, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Kaz, Jan-Simon, Dominig, Tanikawa, Stephane, Fulup, Jens
+Agenda:
+   * Yocto 2.1 vs 2.2 Decision.
+     * Charming Chinook will be 2.1 (krogoth). May have to back port PulseAudio 9 and Wayland from morty.
+     * Daring Dab will be 2.2 (morty). Sandbox was created for morty by Ronan.
+     * We will consider branching Charming Chinook after the f2f in Yokohama.
+   * Qt 5.7 for CC decision - The following was communicated to Steering Committee.
+"We need to move to Qt version 5.7 for the CC release. This is the Qt version that switches to using LGPL v3 for its open source license. The fundamental reason for the switch is that we need some fixes for ivi-shell that are included in the qt-wayland component in version 5.7.  While back porting these fixes is technically possible, we believe that the fixes would be LGPL v3 and would cause those files to have to be relicensed.  Since there is overall better support for wayland and weston in the new version of Qt we feel it makes sense to make the switch.
+Since Qt is not included in the AGL UCB distribution as defined in meta-agl and meta-agl-extras, it is only build and included in the root file system when building the AGL demo. Therefore, meta-agl and meta-gal-extra will continue to be licensed using earlier versions of the GPL and LGPL."
+**Expert Groups:**
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * See [[20161024_ui_gra_telco_mm|latest meeting minutes]].
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned) ** Same status per Kaz. **
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update - see [[eg-navi:|EG Navi Wiki page]] for more information. Need to get more interaction with SAT from this EG. We would like to see instructions on how to integrate a new map with the App. Code is well written according to Fulup but comments are all in Japanese and there is no documentation. EG is planning to add some new features for the CES demo.
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS ** No Update. **
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * See latest meeting minutes.
+     * FIXME replace Security Blueprint Update
+       * First draft targeted for Nov 15. Release for CES. (At risk)
+       * John O'Connor completing a draft of the scope of the document for the next EG meeting ** Not complete **
+       * Fulup asked the SAT to provide any customer questions/inputs from members to make sure address those in the document.
+     * App FW Update (Fulup)
+       * IoT.bzh needs green light to publish the documents they have created from Renesas.
+       * Need some more documentation on the wiki to allow people to proceed in using the App Framework.
+       * IoT.bzh working with Jens to integrate new Home Screen with App FW. Should be ready for Yokohama F2F.
+       * App FW is requirement for CES Apps so that is one way we will use to test the viability of the app framework.
+       * Repackaging of existing CES/ALS demos is part of testing.
+       * Current work
+         * Reworking the App FW to use systemd for control of apps
+         * Introduce cgroups and namespace
+         * Basically containerizing applications (LXC)
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation.
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * Servers all updated this week with new release from Red Hat.
+     * Lava up and running for Porter, Vayu, and RPI, and QEMU so we can start running tests on those. These will be made public on a single server shortly.
+     * Download server back up. Snapshots reworked to always have the latest working build available for each board avoiding the problem of not having a build on a given day when that day's build failed.
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+     * No news
+Miscellaneous:
+   * Hypervisor open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+     * Fulup suggested looking at Jailhouse. Dominig will follow up on email list with a link to recent presentation given at ECLE.
+New Business:
+   * Suggestion from Dominig to change branching strategy to align to Yocto strategy/ naming conventions. Walt suggested starting an email thread to see what problems people might be having and to add branching strategy to the "Contributing to AGL" wiki page.
+   * Fulup gave a read out from the GENIVI AMM.
+---------
+==== October 14, 2016 ====
+//Face to Face Meeting in Berlin//
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Leon, Jens, Tanikawa, Dominig, Matt Porter, Phil Wise, Anton, Munakata, Stephane, Chris, Michael, Kusakabe
+On-Line: Fulup
+Agenda:
+   * Yocto 2.1 Update - Discussion of whether we should move to Yocto 2.2 (not released yet but is on the master branch of Yocto). SAT was split on whether this is a good idea. Walt will check with CES vendors to see if the switch to Yocto 2.2 will break compatibility in the short term (pre-CES).
+     * Pros
+       * Support for shared graphics (Intel)
+       * According Doming the Intel boards build. IoT.bzh says the Renesas boards build, but not much testing has been done.
+     * Cons
+       * Expect a number of BSPs to break and recovery may not be possible for CES
+       * The general strategy for AGL has been to wait for Yocto to settle down after their release and make our release with a nine month lag. Going to a three month lag with no notice will jeopardize the schedule.
+       * RFPs for board vendors and app suppliers referenced Yocto 2.1.
+   * BSPs Building in Master
+     * Minnowboard - Yes
+     * Raspberry PI 2/3 - Yes
+     * Porter - Yes. Glitches with gstreamer a few times during building per Stephane. Will create a Jira
+     * SABRE - No
+     * Vayu - ?
+     * Dragon Board - ?
+     * QEMU - Yes
+   * Qt 5.7 for CC
+     * Tanikawa explained that ivi shell changes that we need were merged for qt-wayland in Qt 5.7. Backporting may be technically possible to 5.6 but that may not be legally possible due to lgpl licence change in Qt 5.7. Recommendation from SAT is to change to Qt 5.7. See [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-265 | Jira SPEC-265]] Walt to push question to Steering Committee.
+---------
+==== September 29, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Michael, Jens, Ned, Tanikawa, Bai, Hammad,
+Agenda:
+   * Yocto 2.1 Update
+   * BSPs Building in Master
+     * Minnowboard - Yes
+     * Raspberry PI 2/3 - Yes
+     * Porter - Yes. Glitches with gstreamer a few times during building per Stephane. Will create a Jira
+     * SABRE - No
+     * Vayu - ?
+     * Dragon Board - ?
+     * QEMU - Yes
+Expert Groups:
+   * **Graphics and UI**
+     * Internode display protocol proposal (Tanibata) - Tanibata not present. Walt will schedule a special SAT call for next week.
+     * AGL Compositor - possible donation from Wind River (Ned)
+       * IP Scan in progress inside Wind River
+       * Some cleanup of the code is required internal to Wind River
+       * Will be presented to the Graphics and UI EG prior to SAT
+       * Could be hosted in the agl staging area for review - Ned's guess is this about a month away (say Nov 1).
+       * Features
+         * Qt Waylon dependencies - elimination of Qt dependencies would need to be community effort
+         * Window manager
+         * Surface sharing
+         * Multiple display support
+     * Navigation EG Update
+     * Speech Services - possible donation from Conti for TTS
+       * 3 - 6 months until Conti legal and technical review can be completed.
+       * The feature set you would get is basically a TTS with an API to put out "Speak" requests.
+       * The API is used in our products and allows for
+       * Different sources (Speech Dialog, Navigation, "Apps"...) to speak
+       * Priority handling / arbitration of Applications using the TTS
+       * Interruption of "Speak" requests
+   * **Application Framework and Security**
+     * Security Blueprint Update
+       * First draft targeted for Nov 15. Release for CES.
+       * John O'Connor completing a draft of the scope of the document for the next EG meeting
+       * Fulup asked the SAT to provide any customer questions/inputs from members to make sure address those in the document.
+     * App FW Update (Fukup)
+       * Call extended to test the current app framework.
+       * Source code and binary from Jose's AMM presentation is available for testing and extending.
+       * App FW is requirement for CES Apps so that is one way we will use to test the viability of the app framework.
+       * Repackaging of existing CES/ALS demos is part of testing.
+       * Current work
+         * Reworking the App FW to use systemd for control of apps
+         * Introduce cgroups and namespace
+         * Basically containerizing applications (LXC)
+   * **Connectivity**
+     * Bluetooth and Wifi Connectivity
+       * Looking a common commercial BT/Wifi dongle to be used as part of a standard set up. IoT.bzh will do some testing and make a recommendation.
+     * Vehicle messaging and signaling
+       * Looking for some characterization of IVI system message rates from CAN bus in order to drive the design. Getting trace data from CAN buses is impossible on the internet. Walt will bring to Steering Committee to ask for date.
+       * See https://github.com/iotbzh/txc-demo/blob/master/bench/result-bench-porter for some bench marks done by IoT.bzh for one vehicle trace from Ford (openxc) that was found on the internet.
+   * **CIAT**
+     * New Jenkins and gerrit up and running
+     * Jenkins job builder up and running
+     * Download server? Not switched over yet. Earliest is tomorrow, which will give us snapshot builds on Friday.
+   * Telematics (Proposed EG)
+New Business:
+   * Fulup posted an email on the APIs that PSA opened for up for Big Data services. Looking for feedback.
+   * Hypervisor open source reference architecture where we can run multiple instances of AGL running different profiles such as IVI and IC. Renesas Gen 3 hardware should be fast enough to support this use case.
+==== September 6, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Tanikawa, John O'Connor, Ahmed, Fulup, Jens, Ashley, Michael, Okubi
+Agenda:
+   * Review Roadmap Slides
+   * Reference and Community BSPs (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro#supported_hardware)
+     * Minnowboard
+       * Noted that Dominig is working on a Minnowboard Quick start guide on the wiki.
+       * Stephane - Minnowboard build that we create as part of the daily snapshots fail to boot the board from an SD card.
+       * Jan-Simon/Fulup: Create a Jira issue and assign to Dominig.
+       * Kaz - can boot the board from a USB stick with the AGL build. Kaz to send a summary of what he did to get it to boot to the mail list.
+     * Discussion of criteria for adding and maintaining reference boards came up (see SAT meeting minutes from May 27,2016 FIXME add pointer). SAT would like the criteria and whether there are financial qualifications to being a reference board approved by the new SC.
+  * Yocto 2.1 - no showstoppers seen in transitions to Kergoth. All targets are building in Jan-Simon's sandbox except for the Porter board. Jan-Simon expects to push to master by the end of this week. We can use the AMM as an opportunity to get help closing any remaining issues.
+   * Security Blueprint document progress - move ahead with setting up github for AGL documentation since there is already infrastructure there for MD rendering and document review.
+   * Spec Updates for overall architecture - will move from DOORS NG to github once we have established the account and some basic processes as we develop the security spec.
+     * GitHub organization established at https://github.com/automotive-grade-linux
+     * Recommend getting a domain like docs.automotivelinux.org
+     * Jan-Simon did some research on other LF collab projects and they use readthedocs.
+==== September 1, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Kaz, Jens, Fulup
+Notes:
+   * Face to face meeting Sep 6 in Munich the day before the AMM starts. Starts at noon with lunch with conference bridge available from 12:45.
+   * Reviewed SPEC-132 and SPEC-134 updates from Connectivity EG. Walt will reserve one or two hours at the AMM to discuss removing AMB from AGL and replacing it with a different solution. We will brainstorm the ideas that have been researched by IoT.bzh, Microchip and anyone else regarding the potential solution. ** Done **
+     * Email to SAT - System Architecture Team proposes to close project "Add private API's to AMB" (see SPEC-132) and move forward with project "Automotive Bus Privacy and Security Concerns" (SPEC-134). Please respond with yea or nay vote by August 18. ** Done. Issue closed. **
+   * Reference and Community BSPs (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro#supported_hardware)
+     * Minnowboard
+       * Noted that Dominig is working on a Minnowboard Quick start guide on the wiki.
+       * Stephane - Minnowboard build that we create as part of the daily snapshots fail to boot the board from an SD card.
+       * Jan-Simon/Fulup: Create a Jira issue and assign to Dominig.
+       * Kaz - can boot the board from a USB stick with the AGL build. Kaz to send a summary of what he did to get it to boot to the mail list.
+     * Discussion of criteria for adding and maintaining reference boards came up (see SAT meeting minutes from May 27,2016 FIXME add pointer). SAT would like the criteria and whether there are financial qualifications to being a reference board approved by the new SC.
+  * Yocto 2.1 - no showstoppers seen in transitions to Kergoth. All targets are building in Jan-Simon's sandbox except for the Porter board. Jan-Simon expects to push to master by the end of this week. We can use the AMM as an opportunity to get help closing any remaining issues.
+   * Security Blueprint document progress - move ahead with setting up github for AGL documentation since there is already infrastructure there for MD rendering and document review.
+   * Spec Updates for overall architecture - will move from DOORS NG to github once we have established the account and some basic processes as we develop the security spec.
+     * GitHub organization established at https://github.com/automotive-grade-linux
+     * Recommend getting a domain like docs.automotivelinux.org
+     * Jan-Simon did some research on other LF collab projects and they use readthedocs.
+Other SAT topics (skipped this week)
+   * **Jira requests for SAT** (see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=10418)
+   * GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+   * Criteria for adding new boards
+   * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+   * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+-----
+==== August 4, 2016 ====
+Meeting starts at 013:00 UTC
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Fulup, Kaz, Jens,
+Notes:
+   * Agreed to schedule face to face meeting Sep 6 in Munich the day before the AMM starts
+   * Reviewed SPEC-132 and SPEC-134 updates from Connectivity EG. Walt will reserve one or two hours at the AMM to discuss removing AMB from AGL and replacing it with a different solution. We will brainstorm the ideas that have been researched by IoT.bzh, Microchip and anyone else regarding the potential solution.
+     * Email to SAT - System Architecture Team proposes to close project "Add private API's to AMB" (see SPEC-132) and move forward with project "Automotive Bus Privacy and Security Concerns" (SPEC-134). Please respond with yea or nay vote by August 18.
+   * AGL Process Update and Approval - Walt
+     * New layers created by Jan-Simon per last call
+     * README.md files updated in meta-agl and meta-agl-demo to reflect the revised structure. Also Jan-Simon created a README-AGL.md that describes the overall project since README.md has a specific purpose in Yocto, which is to describe the layer itself and not the build procedure.
+     * For rendered versions see
+       * https://markdownshare.com/view/ad47c709-8521-4875-8a61-5151062855ed
+       * https://markdownshare.com/view/a8192414-84c5-469d-bcae-e6f0acdbcabb
+       * https://markdownshare.com/view/bdd960ea-a01c-41e8-aae6-08e98330d271
+   * Reference and Community BSPs (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro#supported_hardware)
+   * Security Blueprint document progress - move ahead with setting up github for AGL documentation since there is already infrastructure there for MD rendering and document review.
+   * Spec Updates for overall architecture - will move from DOORS NG to github once we have established the account and some basic processes as we develop the security spec.
+   * **Jira requests for SAT** (see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=10418)
+Other SAT topics (skipped this week)
+   * GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+   * Criteria for adding new boards
+   * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+   * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+-------
+==== July 12, 2016 ====
+Meeting starts at 04:00 UTC  (13:00 JST)
+Special Face-to-Face Meeting in Tokyo prior to ALS - Neptune Conference Room 4th Floor Plaza of Hotel Chinsanzo.
+Agenda:
+   * BB results and CC/DD roadmap
+   * AGL Process Update and Approval
+   * **Jira requests for SAT** (see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=10418)
+   * App Framework proposal from Toyota
+==== July 7, 2016 ====
+Meeting starts at 013:00 UTC
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Stephane, Jan-Simon, Fulup, Ned
+Agenda:
+Joint meeting with App FW EG
+   * App Framework proposal from Toyota - no further review
+   * Web Browser / Engine - on hold until after ALS
+   * Demo Apps Update - no update from integration team in Japan on iDrive integration with the applications. F2F session planned for Friday in Tokyo.
+SAT Call:
+   * AGL Process Update and Approval - Walt
+     * Update from Jan-Simon and Stephane on Yocto layers
+     * Further refinement of the process document based on Stephane and Jan-Simon's latest work. Also added meta-agl-devel as a new layer for on-going development and community BSPs
+     * Renamed agl minimal to agl core
+   * Reference and Community BSPs (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro#supported_hardware)
+   * Security Blueprint document progress
+   * Spec Updates for overall architecture
+   * **Jira requests for SAT** (see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=10418)
+Other SAT topics (skipped this week)
+   * GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+   * Criteria for adding new boards
+   * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+   * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+-----
+==== June 24, 2016 ====
+Special Joint meeting with Application Framework Expert Group
+Attendees: Walt, Okubi, Tanikawa, Munakata, Stephane, Fulup, Ned, Nori, Hoshina, Matusmoto, Michael, Jose, Hiroshi, Kengo
+Agenda:
+   * App Framework proposal from Toyota - Okubi-san - Okubi-san reviewed his document that updates the AGL Resquirements Spec for Home Screen and Applicaiton Framework which was email out earlier today.
+   * Demo Apps update
+   * Web browser update
+-----
+==== June 23, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Hoshina, Tanikawa, Fulup, Ned
+Minutes:
+   * **AGL Process Update and Approval - Walt**
+     * Fulup brought up questions about SAT voting procedures.
+     * Discussion of meta-agl-demo vs. meta-agl and use of staging repo.
+       * How to deal with mutually exclusive sets of new functionality. (e.g, competing audio or security solutions)
+       * Need to include the Yocto layers in the document to better define what is considered "in" the official AGL build and how new code/features get promoted to the official build.
+       * Approval deferred to the get the document updated and pending the template updates that JSM  is working on.
+       * Here is the whiteboard drawing that was shown during the call. {{ :sat_meetings:img_0880.jpg?500 |}}
+   * **Jira requests for SAT** (see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=10418)
+     * Deferred https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-205 Proposal to create Navi API EG (from AisinAW)
+       * Discussed in some detail the presentation from AisinAW that is attached to the issue. Have some questions for AisinAW about the proposal and what the work products are. Walt will update the Jira issue with the comments and invite AisinAW to the next SAT call.
+       * Some discussion about whether we need to specify a global API mechanism or tool such as GENIVI did with Franca. General agreement that we should be prepared to recommend a tool (maybe JSON), but that if something exists in a domain already we should not force it to use an AGL specific tool as this primarily just creates more work.
+     * Deferred https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-196 - Move App FW from staging tree. Agreed that the gerrit change should be reverted to move the App FW out of meta-agl. Provoked additional discussion about layer set up and where this change belongs in the layer structure. Also realized that we need the new template structure being worked on by JSM to accommodate this type of request in the meta-agl-extra or meta-agl-demo layer. JSM will an initial version of the template structure available on Friday.
+     * Approved https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-195 - Create /src directories for most driver and CAN/LIN driver
+Meeting adjourned after 2.5 hours. Will continue with rest of agenda and remaining open items next time. Also agreed that we will have a face to face SAT meeting in Tokyo the afternoon before ALS.
+   * Reference and Community BSPs (see https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro#supported_hardware)
+   * Security Blueprint document progress
+   * Spec Updates for overall architecture
+:00 UTC
+Continue with joint App FW EG Meeting.
+   * App Framework proposal from Toyota - Okubi
+   * Demo Apps update
+   * Web browser update
+Other SAT topics (skipped this week)
+   * GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+   * Criteria for adding new boards
+   * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+   * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+------
+==== June 9, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Fulup, Stephane, Jens
+Minutes:
+Old Business:
+   * Security Blueprint progress - no update, but we discussed usage of Pandoc to convert md files to other document types such as Dokuwiki or MS word docs. Walt will take the security blueprint and put it into a git documentation repo and create the MD5.
+   * Spec updates for overall architecture
+     * Expecting an update for Application Framework from Okubi-san by June 15
+     * Jose expects to have a public version of the Application Framework available early next week for review. Walt will get a technical writer to start review the content directly in gerrit. Will also start technical reviews by developers.
+   * Skip: GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+   * Skip: Criteria for adding new boards
+  * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+  * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+New:
+   * Dev process updates - reviewed the current slide deck Walt has been working on to explain the process and clarify the rules around usage of the staging repo.
+------
+==== May 27, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Fulup, Stephane, Jan-Simon, Manuel, Tanikawa, others at [[https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/may2016-f2f#attendees|Vannes F2F]]
+Minutes:
+Old Business:
+  - Security Proposal from IoT.bzh (http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2016-April/001821.html). - Need approval to go forward
+    - An update was presented at the F2F in Vannes
+    - Topic was reviewed at the Platinum member meeting in Japan on May 14
+    - Plan is to put together the TOC for the Security blueprint document later today at the F2F
+  - Spec updates for overall architecture
+    - Expecting an update for Application Framework from Okubi-san by June 15
+  - Skip: GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+  - Criteria for adding new boards
+    - Two categories proposed - Reference Boards and Community Supported Boards
+      - Reference boards
+        - Sponsoring company sets up test nodes in Lava, Full suite is run and test results reported.
+        - Need criteria for accepting a reference boards.
+          - Minimum of two boards provided for AGL test infrastructure
+          - Kick-start guide for downloading and building code and running the AGL demo code.
+          - Yocto BSP layer that passes AGL CIAT testing (>90% pass maybe)
+          - Snapshot builds available from AGL Jenkins
+          - Automated testing performed from AGL test environment with results posted publically
+          - Combo layers and SDK available for reference boards
+        - Criteria for de-referencing a board as the hardware goes obsolete or support is withdrawn by its sponsor
+        - Current reference boards - Porter, Minnowboard Max (need a kickstart)
+        - Propose to Steering Committee (or AB) that having a reference board requires Silver Level membership or above.
+      - Community board
+        - Best effort by the community
+        - Look at OpenWRT and their [[https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start : table of hardware]] for what is supported.
+  - Request to add GENIVI components to AGL build. https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-172
+    - Audio Manager (audio routing)
+      - Denso/Adit working on GENIVI AM plugins for pulse audio
+      - IoT.bzh working on a simplified Tizen (without murphy) solution for audio routing to be presented at the f2f.
+      - AGL solution will most likely look much different than current solution in the staging repo as we converge on a preferred audio routing mechanism.
+      - 27 May - Reviewed the audio manager and policy manager diagram created by Manuel with Tanibata and Isogai (need link to diagram).
+New Business:
+  * {{:agl_inter-display-protocol.pptx|Presentation from Graphics and UI EG}} on layer manager (Tanibata-san)
+  * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+  * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+  * Walt to add a single table that list all meetings to the wiki page - done see [[meetings]]
+------
+==== May 12, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Michael, Tanikawa, Tanibata, Stephane, Fulup
+Minutes:
+Old Business:
+  - Security Proposal from IoT.bzh (http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2016-April/001821.html). - Need approval to go forward
+    - Fulup mentioned that they are preparing an update to be presented at the F2F in Vannes
+    - Tanibata made a comment saying this is a good starting point and looks forward to seeing the implementation on AGL.
+    - Topic will be reviewed at the Platinum member meeting in Japan on Friday.
+  - Spec updates for overall architecture
+  - Skip: GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+  - Skip: Criteria for adding new boards
+  - Request to add GENIVI components to AGL build. https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-172
+    - Audio Manager (audio routing)
+      - Denso/Adit working on GENIVI AM plugins for pulse audio
+      - IoT.bzh working on a simplified Tizen (without murphy) solution for audio routing to be presented at the f2f.
+      - AGL solution will most likely look much different than current solution in the staging repo as we converge on a preferred audio routing mechanism.
+New Business:
+  * {{:agl_inter-display-protocol.pptx|Presentation from Graphics and UI EG}} on layer manager (Tanibata-san)
+Notes:
+  * The need to document "what is AGL" and how does it compare it to GENIVI, Tizen, Ostro, etc and the benefits of AGL compared to the others for OEMs and Tier Ones. Target audience is C level management so they can drive AGL adoption into their companies.
+  * AGL Test suites need to move up the stack into testing middleware so that Tier Ones have confidence in the platform when they start development.
+  * Walt to add a single table that list all meetings to the wiki page
+------
+==== Tuesday May 3, 2016 ====
+Meeting starts at 13:00 UTC
+Attendees: Walt, Jens, Jan-Simon, Tanikawa, Michael, Stephane,
+Agenda:
+Old business:
+  - Connman progress (https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-119)
+    - Close in terms of SAT approving Connman. Refer back to Connectivity EG.
+  - Security Proposal from IoT.bzh (http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2016-April/001821.html).
+    - Defer further review to May 12 SAT call due to holiday in Japan this week.
+  - Spec updates for overall architecture
+  - GPLv3 Packages in AA release.
+    - Open action for Walt to check with LF resources on secure boot
+    - List of packages that use GPLv3. Not all will appear in the file system on the target board. Need guidance from OEM members on how to handle these because they will be responsible for shipping these in their products.
+      - gawk: GPL-3.0 gnutls: GPL-3.0+ libgcrypt: GPL-3.0+ gcc: GPL-3.0-with-GCC-exception gcc: GPL-3.0 coreutils: GPL-3.0+ m4: GPL-3.0 bash: GPL-3.0+ gdbm: GPL-3.0 cairo: GPL-3.0+ xz: GPL-3.0-with-autoconf-exception bison: GPL-3.0 binutils: GPL-3.0 elfutils: GPL-3.0 readline: GPL-3.0+ gettext: GPL-3.0+ screen: GPL-3.0+ gdb: GPL-3.0
+    - Defer to CC release on taking any actions on these. In the meantime we need to triage which of these might be false positive and which ones have logical replacements.
+  - Criteria and plan for new boards
+New business:
+  - Request to add GENIVI components to AGL build. https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-172
+    - Jan-Simon will work on Andre on resolving his gerrit issue.
+    - Will review his proposal once it has been uploaded to gerrit.
+-----
+==== Thursday April 14, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Fulup, Michael, Christian, Ned, Paul Nichols
+) Connman for Connectivity
+   * Stephane has documented proposal in https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-119
+   * Stephane has submitted a patch in gerrit that allows switching between Connman and systemd.
+   * Fulup suggests that we need to write a test app with a simple GUI that allows a user to connect to Wifi and Bluetooth. Create https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-170 to track.
+   * Paul: Are there any security provisions around connectivity through a cellular carrier or authentication mechanisms in the current solution? Need to look at what ofono offers for security. Concern is for the telematics use case with an embedded mobile.
+) GPLv3 packages in AA
+   * Would like clarification from LF on whether usage of GPLv3 prevents the use of a secure boot loader that would not allow a user to change the embedded OS.
+   * How does Ostro handle this?
+   * Create a list of the current components that use GPLv3 in the baseline distribution and whether those components on the target file system.
+   * There was a report that was sent to the mail list last year about re-use of GENIVI and the components. http://iot.bzh/download/public/2015/Audit_on_GENIVI_components_in_AGL_Phase-1.pdf
+) Security framework - reiterated the need to review the document and get feedback to the App FW EG so that IoT.bzh can plan their resource allocation appropriately.
+) Spec update plan for overall architecture.
+   * Need to work on the use cases as a first step.
+   * Will start wiki page with overall system use cases?
+   * Start with a 3 - 5 page white paper/blueprint that describes what AGL is.
+) Plan for adding boards to the distribution
+   * What commitment do we expect from the board owner to accept it into the build?
+     * Define the difference between an "official reference board" and someone adding a board they are interested in.
+     * Two boards (or more) to be provided for board farm.
+     * Need resource commitment for the board sponsor to maintain the BSP
+     * Start up kit (documentation) that gets a developer up and running on the board in a short amount of time.
+------
+==== Thursday Feb 25, 2016 ====
+Face to Face meeting at AMM
+Attendees: Walt, Fulup,, Jens Bocklage, Stephane Desneux, Ryota Okubi, Ned Miljevic,, Yoshiuki Ito, Bai, Goto, Hideo Yamashita, Tanikawa, Michael
+Notes:
+Issues that were brought up that should be covered by the SAT.
+   * (Ned) User stories for overall system functionality
+   * (Ned) Release contents
+   * (Okubi) Requirement Spec concerns
+     * Review the system architecture diagram that is in the system architecture document.
+     * Which parts of the spec should be published
+     * Gap between the spec and implementation
+   * (Okubi) How to guide for taking AGL Yocto layers and reusing them in a production project.
+   * (Walt) SAT should have ownership of Yocto layers and device profiles
+   * (Goto) Difficult to understand the architecture. Need more diagrams and documentation.
+   * (Tanikawa) Source code management. Create source code repos
+     * Layer management
+     * Package management
+   * (Fulup) Coordination of the Expert Groups
+   * (Fulup) Need to meet more often than the AMMs, possibly at other LF events such as ELC.
+   * (Fulup) Need to define what is supported/mandatory for AGL and what is left to the end (product) developer.
+   * (Michael) Need to fix the block diagram.
+==== Wednesday Feb 10, 2016 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Fulup, Michael Fabry, Jens Bocklage, Joel Hoffman, Stephane Desneux, Jan-Alexandru Vaduva, Ryota Okubi, Ned Miljevic, Agustin Benito, Yoshiuki Ito, Nuohan, Andrew Wells, Tsuyoshi Sakamoto, Jan-Simon Moeller, Bai, Goto, Hideo Yamashita
+Notes:
+Kickoff meeting prior to the AMM.
+==== Previous Meetings ====
 {{:sat_meetings:agl_sat_meeting_2015_02_05.pptx|Meeting Minutes February 5, 2015}}\\
 {{:sat_meetings:agl_sat_meeting_2015_01_29.pptx|Meeting Minutes January 29, 2015}}\\

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