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 ====== AGL Virtualization Expert Group (EG-VIRT) Meetings ======
-EG-VIRT Meetings are held every other Wednesday at 14:00 UTC. The upcoming schedule can be found below.
-Conference Information:
+**This page is no longer maintained.**
-EG-VIRT Biweekly Meeting
-Join Zoom Meeting\\
+Meeting agenda and meeting notes have been moved to the Virtualization EG Confluence in the following link
-https://zoom.us/j/855006400
+https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/display/VE/Meeting+Notes
-Meeting ID: 855 006 400
-Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ameRude4a
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 ===== Meetings Agenda and Report =====
-==== 16/04/2019, 4PM CET Meeting on 03/04/2019 Action item ====
+==== Meeting after July, 2020 ====
-Virtualization in the AGL Requirements: Eric Shufro, Satpreet Singh (Panasonic)
+Meeting agenda and meeting notes have been moved to the Virtualization EG Confluence in the following link
+https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/display/VE/Meeting+Notes
+==== 24/06/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees:
+   * Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
+   * <del>Mitsuya - Panasonic</del>
+   * <del>Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic</del>
+   * Tamura - Panasonic
+   * Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
+   * Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
+   * Matt Spencer - ARM
+   * Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
+   * Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
+   * Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
+   * Joel Catala - Tuxera
+   * Eva Rio - Tuxera
+   * Francois Ozog - Linaro
+   * <del>Victor Duan - Linaro</del>
+   * Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
+   * <del>Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA</del>
+   * <del>Leonid Lazerev - MERA</del>
+   * Scott Murray - Konsulko
+   * Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
+   * Nao Tanibata - ADIT
+   * Eugen Friedrich - ADIT
+   * <del>Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT</del>
+   * <del>Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software</del>
+   * <del>Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems</del>
+   * Parth Dode - AGL Google Summer of Code (GSoC) student
+   * Jakub Luzny - AGL GSoC student
+   * Daniel Stone - Collabora
+   * Marius Vlad - Collabora
+   * Gunnar Andersson - GENIVI
+   * Stephen Lawrence - Renesas
+   * Mike Holmes - Linaro
+   * Daniel Stone gave a [[https://lists.automotivelinux.org/g/agl-dev-community/message/8450 | presentation on virtualized GPU using VirtIO]].
+   * Jerry presented the roadmap for the EG [[https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/x/r4CbAQ | in Confluence]]
+Other open action items
+   * Laurent will present what VW has been working on with respect to implementing VirtIO for the next call.
+   * Tuxera to provide an update on what modifications we need to do to the AGL file system for VirtIO
+   * Next meeting Francois will present a roadmap update from Linaro
+Next meeting Jul 8 at this same time.
+==== 10/06/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees:
+   * Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
+   * <del>Mitsuya - Panasonic</del>
+   * <del>Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic</del>
+   * Tamura - Panasonic
+   * Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
+   * Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
+   * <del>Matt Spencer - ARM</del>
+   * Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
+   * Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
+   * Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
+   * Joel Catala - Tuxera
+   * Eva Rio - Tuxera
+   * Francois Ozog - Linaro
+   * Victor Duan - Linaro
+   * Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
+   * <del>Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA</del>
+   * <del>Leonid Lazerev - MERA</del>
+   * <del>Scott Murray - Konsulko</del>
+   * Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
+   * <del>Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT</del>
+   * Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
+   * <del>Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems</del>
+   * Parth Dode - AGL Google Summer of Code (GSoC) student
+   * Jakub Luzny - AGL GSoC student
+   * Azzedine Touzni - Qualcomm
+   * Stephane Desneux - IoT.bzh
+Azzedine gave a presentation on the work Qualcomm has been doing in hardware virtualization
+Other open action items
+   * Walt will create a Confluence Space and send out the link to the mail list.
+     * Update: Confluence space [[https://confluence.automotivelinux.org/x/b4CbAQ | can be found here]].
+   * Laurent will present what VW has been working on with respect to implementing VirtIO for the next call.
+   * Tuxera to provide an update on what modifications we need to do to the AGL file system for VirtIO
+   * Next call -  Daniel Stone of Collabora will give a presentation of what they have working on with VirtIO for some of their customers.
+* Next meeting June 24 at this same time.
+==== 27/05/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees:
+   * Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
+   * Mitsuya - Panasonic
+   * Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
+   * Tamura - Panasonic
+   * Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
+   * Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
+   * Matt Spencer - ARM
+   * Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
+   * Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
+   * <del>Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq</del>
+   * Joel Catala - Tuxera
+   * Eva Rio - Tuxera
+   * Francois Ozog - Linaro
+   * Victor Duan - Linaro
+   * Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
+   * Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
+   * Leonid Lazerev - MERA
+   * Scott Murray - Konsulko
+   * Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
+   * <del>Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT</del>
+   * <del>Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software</del>
+   * <del>Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems</del>
+   * Parth Dode - AGL Google Summer of Code (GSoC) student
+   * Jakub Luzny - AGL GSoC student
+   * Parth and Jakub introduced themselves to the EG.
+     * Parth’s project description - https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/?sp-page=2#6570429394714624
+     * Jakub’s project description - https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/?sp-page=2#4689277591486464
+     * Information from Jerry
+        * Jailhouse 0.12 release announcement (started VirtIO integration) - https://lwn.net/Articles/811509/
+        * Virtio driver for RTEMS - https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=8922611
+   * Mikhail G. presented Open Synergy’s ideas on how to support different VirtIO devices in AGL (link to presentation)
+   * Tuxera to check what modifications we need to do to the AGL file system for VirtIO
+   * Laurent will try to get permission to present what VW has been working on with respect to implementing VirtIO for the next call.
+Other open action items
+   * Jerry following up with Qualcomm on presenting their research in this area.
+   * Matt thinks that Collabora may be working on VirtIO for some of their customers. He will reach out to Daniel Stone about about giving a presentation on their status.
+     * Dan will organize a presentation from Collabora at an upcoming meeting
+* Next meeting June 10 at this same time.
+==== 13/05/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees:
+   * Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
+   * Mitsuya - Panasonic
+   * Tadao Tanikawa - Panasonic
+   * Tamura - Panasonic
+   * Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
+   * Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
+   * Matt Spencer - ARM
+   * Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
+   * Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
+   * Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
+   * Joel Catala - Tuxera
+   * <del>Eva Rio - Tuxera</del>
+   * <del>Francois Ozog - Linaro</del>
+   * <del>Victor Duan - Linaro</del>
+   * Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
+   * Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
+   * Leonid Lazerev - MERA
+   * Scott Murray - Konsulko
+   * <del>Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT</del>
+   * <del>Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT</del>
+   * <del>Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software</del>
+   * <del>Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems</del>
+   * Jerry showed a {{:pana_opsy_virtio_status.pdf|presentation}} about Panasonic’s work on VirtIO and a possible plan for moving forward.
+   * Mikhail G. presented Open Synergy’s progress on VirtIO and their areas of contribution to AGL (audio, video, scmi, and GPI (3D)) - Included in Jerry’s presentation
+   * Joel {{:tuxera-agl-virt-eg-virtio-fs-20200513.pdf|presented a review}} of the GENIVI AVPS filesystems requirements.
+   * Matt thinks that Collabora may be working on VirtIO for some of their customers. He will reach out to Daniel Stone about about giving a presentation on their status.
+    * Daniel will organize a presentation from Collabora at an upcoming meeting
+Other Open Action Items
+   * Francois will ask if Qualcomm can present their research in this area.
+Next meeting is scheduled for May 27 at the same time,
+==== 22/04/2020, 2PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees:
+   * Jerry Zhao - Panasonic
+   * Mitsuya - Panasonic
+   * Jan-Simon Moeller - Linux Foundation
+   * Walt Miner - Linux Foundation
+   * Matt Spencer - ARM
+   * Laurent Cremmer -Carmeq
+   * Mark Silberberger - Carmeq
+   * Nicolas Blazevic - Carmeq
+   * Joel Catala - Tuxera
+   * Eva Rio - Tuxera
+   * Francois Ozog - Linaro
+   * Victor Duan - Linaro
+   * Mikhail Golubev - Open Synergy
+   * Mikhail Zaytsev - MERA
+   * Leonid Lazerev - MERA
+   * Scott Murray - Konsulko
+   * Kenji Hosokawa - ADIT
+   * Yuki Tsunashima - ADIT
+   * Teddy Zhai - Green Hills Software
+   * Michele Paolino - Virtual Open Systems
+   * Introductions - new EG leader Jerry Zhao of Panasonic
+   * Jerry showed a presentation about Panasonic’s work on VirtIO
+   * [[ https://www.automotivelinux.org/wpcontent/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/agl_software_defined_car_jun18.pdf | AGL Virtualization White Paper]]
+   * [[https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/download/attachments/28412682/AVPS%20-%20Automotive%20Virtual%20Platform%20Specification%20-%20version%201-01.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1578292478000&api=v2 | GENIVI “Automotive Virtual Platform” spec (AVPS)]] was discussed. Carmeq feels this is a good set of requirements we can start from.
+   * Jerry proposed that someone make a presentation on what the GENIVI spec includes and what might be missing,
+      * Joel can look into file systems sections and give us a read out on those sections
+      * Matt thinks that Collabora may be working on VirtIO for some of their customers. He will reach out to Daniel Stone about about giving a presentation on their status.
+      * Francois will ask if Qualcomm can present their research in this area.
+   * ARM and Linaro - upstream XEN work incorporating VirtIO is on-going
+   * Oasis open to outside suggestions on use cases for VirtIO
+   * Carmeq - need to think about the requirements for telematics, IC, and IVI since each will have very different requirements for VirtIO
+   * Audio noted as a very challenging topic for VirtIO due to sensitivity to latency.
+   * Joel noted that Panasonic and Open Synergy have done some work in this area. Has any of that work been shared or upstreamed to AGL?
+      * Jerry will share some details at the next meeting
+   * ISO 24089 - Road Vehicle Software Update Engineering
+   * Next meeting May 13 at this same time.
+==== 01/04/2020, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Li, Mikhail, Scott
+  * Plan is to work on Virt-IO
+  * Next meetings
+    * Next meeting based on poll on mailinglist
+==== 18/03/2020, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino, (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller, Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Leonid Lazarev, Mikhail Zaytsev (MERA), Mikail Goublev (OpenSynergy), Corey Minyard
+  * General updates
+      * Virtual Open Systems patches are in the process to be merged (1 merged, 2 pending)
+      * Patches are available here:
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22202
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22201
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22200
+      * Zera could help with XEN on Raspberry 3
+  * Next meetings
+    * Next meeting planned 18th of March 2020
+==== 12/02/2020, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino, (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent Cremmer, Mark Silberberger (Carmeq)
+  * General updates
+      * Virtual Open Systems patches are in the process to be merged (1 merged, 2 pending)
+      * Patches are available here:
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22202
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22201
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22200
+  * Next meetings
+    * Next meeting planned 4th of March 2020
+==== 27/11/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino, Jeremy Fanguede (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent C, Mark Silberberger (Carmeq), Corey Minyard
+  * General updates
+      * Virtual Open Systems started the work to enable XEN from meta-virtualization on AGL. During the call we discussed the code and we decided to move meta-virtualization one layer up. A new version of the patches will be developed
+      * Patches are available here:
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22202
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22201
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22200
+  * Next meetings
+    * Next meeting planned 22nd of January 2020
+==== 18/09/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation)
+  * General updates
+    * EG-VIRT PoC updates
+      * Virtual Open Systems started the work to enable XEN from meta-virtualization on AGL. Target hardware platform is the RCar M3 for the time being. Patches are available here:
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22202
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22201
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22200
+      * AGL-IC group plans to use containers. Michele will join the IC session at the Berlin event via webex
+  * Next meetings
+    * EG-VIRT BoF at AGL AMM accepted: F2F possibility
+    * Next meeting planned for October the 2nd
+==== 04/09/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent Cremmer, Mark Silberberger (Carmeq)
+  * General updates
+    * EG-VIRT PoC updates
+      * Proposal is to build a PoC with 2 AGL profiles and an open source hypervisor
+      * Virtual Open Systems started the work to enable XEN from meta-virtualization on AGL. Target hardware platform is the RCar M3 for the time being. Patches are available here:
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22202
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22201
+          * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/c/AGL/meta-agl/+/22200
+      * AGL-IC group plans to use containers. Michele will try to join the next IC meeting
+	* Next F2F meetings:
+	  * AGL AMM Montecarlo: Possibility to have a F2F meeting there. A BoF has been submitted by Michele
+    * Next meeting planned for September the 18th
+==== 21/08/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), Laurent Cremmer (Carmeq)
+  * General updates
+    * EG-VIRT PoC updates
+      * Proposal is to build a PoC with 2 AGL profiles and an open source hypervisor
+      * Virtual Open Systems started the work to enable XEN from meta-virtualization on AGL. Target hardware platform is the RCar M3 for the time being. Patches are expected for next week
+	* other updates
+          * Jailhouse is going to be upstream in meta-virtualization: https://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-architecture@lists.openembedded.org/msg00090.html
+	  * An EG-VIRT related speech as been accepted for OSS & ELC Europe 2019.
+	* Next F2F meetings:
+	  * AGL AMM Montecarlo: Possibility to have a F2F meeting there. A BoF proposal will be submitted by Michele
+    * Next meeting planned for September the 4th
+==== 24/07/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Satpreet Singh (Panasonic), Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation)
+  * General updates
+    * Eg-VIRT BoF had ~50 attendees. Discussions are ongoing
+    * Several other talks were related to virtualization during ALS
+    * Proposal is to build a PoC with 2 AGL profiles and an open source hypervisor
+      * Virtual Open Systems is available to take over the port of XEN to AGL
+    * Next meeting planned for August 21st
+==== 26/06/2019, 4PM CEST Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner, Jan Simon Moeller (Linux Foundation), LaurentC (VW), Mark Silberger (Carmeq/VW)
+  * General updates
+    * Walt shared work in progress slides that will be presented to the Xen Summit
+    * Laurent provided live comments on the requirements page that have been recorded
+      * new requirements related to boot time, telematics, Raspberry Pi, OS/Hypervisor updates, etc
+    * The next step is to meet F2F in Tokyo and i) select the requirements to address, ii) find the the resources to develop a PoC
+  * Action points (from previous discussion)
+    * Eric-Artem to report about IPC mechanisms
+==== 15/05/2019, 4PM CET Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Satpreet Singh (Panasonic), LaurentC (Volkswagen)
+  * General updates
+    * The AGL speech proposed by Walt has been selected for the XEN summit. Walt will share slides for EG-VIRT review in the next meeting
+  * Automotive virtualization requirements inputs from Panasonic
+    * Inter processor communication is important as well as InterVM communication
+    * Demo requirements: For the PoC safety is not needed at the beginning. An opensource hypervisor will be used
+    * Cluster EG requirements:
+      * Bluetooth and Wifi might be included in cases where there is no IVI (motorcycles). What about safety there?
+  * Next call to be held in 12/06:
+    * we'll skip May the 29th
+  * Action points
+    * Walt will share slides to review for the xen summit
+    * Laurent to provide inputs on requirements
+    * Eric-Artem to report about IPC mechanisms
+==== 17/04/2019, 4PM CET Meeting ====
+Attendees: Michele Paolino (Virtual Open Systems), Walt Miner (Linux Foundation), Eric Shufro (Panasonic), Artem Myagev (EPAM), walzert
+  * Automotive virtualization requirements inputs from Panasonic:
+    * Key topic are Inter VM communication, power management and software updates
+    * Suspend to ram and GPU virt are somehow already supported by XEN
+    * System power management is missing in AGL (power on, screen off etc.)
+        * In virtualized environments, there is a need to power each virtual machine independently (power manager MCU that talks to plugins - one for each VM)
+        * Today Tier-1s buy software from Vector to handle power moding states, communication framework, etc.
+        * Panasonic is available to join Linux Foundation and discuss with Vector to find a solution for embedding solutions to this problem in AGL(also with closed binaries)
+        * On this topic, OEMs (Mazda/Suzuki) are asking tier-1s to bring more production ideas to AGL. Power management is one of them
+        * Today power management is done in EL3 (Arm TrustZone)
+    * A micro controller in the demonstration board is a nice feature to have. Possibly with wake on CAN
+  * EG-IC
+    * Michele attended the last meeting, things are progressing but virtualization is not yet in their future plans
+  * Next call to be held in May 15th:
+    * we'll skip May the 1st
+  * Action points
+    * Artem to provide a couple of examples about IPC mechanisms. If this is not sufficient (Eric to check), we need to start describing a complex use case
+    * Michele will monitor EG-IC
-.	Vision
-   a.	Have an opensoruce project supporting a ecockpit out of the box solution.
-   b.	Support IVI (android/AGL), cluster (AGL), safe RTOS (AutoSAR, RTOS)
-.	Hypervisor
-   a.	ability to virtualize GPU, IOs, networking, CPU and run different virtual machines.
-   b.	Support memory separation for each guest
-   c.	Support physical suspend to RAM.
-   d.	Inter VM communication (Shared memory, network, character)
-   e.	Meet ASIL Safety requirements
-.	System Behavior
-   a.	Power management of vehicle micro and main micro
-   b.	Co-ordinate startup and shutdown of all VMs.
-   c.	Support early boot using suspend to ram or suspend to disk or other techniques
-.	Goals
-   a.	Create standard interfaces for inter VM communication.
-   b.	Create vehicle power moding strategy and interfaces to VM.
-   c.	Create a system block architecture with recommended separation of concerns.
-   d.	Standard way of sharing hardware (Virtio)
-   e.	Standard way of software update including peripheral devices and delta update.
 ==== 03/04/2019, 4PM CET Meeting ====

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