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 ==== Meeting Notes ====
-=== Meeting notes for July 31, 2018 ===
-Attendees: // Upcoming Meeting//
-=== Meeting notes for July 24, 2018 ===
+=== Meeting notes for September 4, 2018 ===
-Attendees: // Upcoming Meeting//
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
-Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Clement, Frederic, Jonathan, Michael, Chris, Sebastien, Romain, Matt, Loic, Nick, Scott, Stephane, Stoyan, Tanikawa, Jordan, Dennis, Mitsunari, Kusakabe, Momiyama, Thierry, Ronan
+=== Meeting notes for August 28, 2018 ===
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+=== Meeting notes for August 21, 2018 ===
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+=== Meeting notes for August 14, 2018 ===
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+=== Meeting notes for August 7, 2018 ===
+Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+ * **DD Must-Fix Issues**.
+     * DD 4.0.3 release with YP 2.2.3 version that went into QA.
+     * DD 4.0.4 not planned. Will be on an as-needed basis. YP has started a 2.2.4.  Now 49% finished with QA.
+     * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11416 | DD Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
+     * Update 7/31 : still waiting for YP release, then on demand
+   * **EE Issues**
+   * Eel 5.0.1 - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_501|Release completed!]]
+   * Eel 5.0.2 - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_502|Release completed!]]
+   * Eel 5.0.3 - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_503|Release completed!]]
+   * Eel 5.1.0 (was 5.0.4) - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_510|Release completed!]]
+         * 5.1.1 with updated poky planned after FF release, date tba
+   * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11701 | EE Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
+   * Funky Flounder (master)
+     * RC1 released
+     * RC2 in progress
+       * RC2 pre-version was sent out by Jan-Simon. Vayu and Raspberry Pi come up with a blank screen.
+       * No audio using default sound card M3.
+       * M3: Media player no audio and no media scanning (SPEC-1587)
+       * Intel Minnowboard: no media player
+       * Loic working on getting media player to work with 4a.
+       * QEMU no media player
+       * Other Known Issues
+         * Raspberry Pi3 64 bit does not boot. Jan-Simon noted that 64 bit has not really been tested. For now 64 bit is not required for AGL given the memory size of the Raspberry
+     * 7/24:
+       * Review of fixes for RC2
+         * 4a:
+           * rpi3 hal ?
+             * Stephane: in sandbox
+           * any required version bumps ?
+             * 15557, 15541 & change for rpi3 hal (upcoming), 14239
+           * any pulse conditionals for post-rc2
+           * Michael: reports that genivi audio manager systemd unit is still in filesystem. will file jira (dlt? - @iot.bzh)
+           * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15499/  enabler right after rc2.
+           * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/14239/ add for rc2.
+         * homescreen/windowmanager/launcher/dasboard:
+           * Issues:
+             * homescreen/windowmanager/laucher sync
+             * dashboard twice click
+           * what changes are necessary in rc2
+             * 15553,
+             * homescreen: double free still under investigation (rpi3, vayu - ?32bit?) Mitsunari-san takes a closer look. -> do not wait with rc2.
+             * windowmanager:
+             * launcher:
+             * dashboard: 15619
+             * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=apps/agl-service-windowmanager-2017.git;a=commit;h=6a10b5626c23ef900335f18c4fdbde4b98c885d8
+             * memory use on small platforms still issue (qml applications use a lot of memory), improvement by not hardcoding full-hd scale in apps, also on m3 + chrome,
+     * RC2 reloaded: any blockers ?
+       * m3 ? - Stephane: homescreen stacktrace, checking with fresh build
+       * rpi3: - Tanikawa-san: build ok, homescreen/wm kind-of unstable, homescreen+launcher alone consume 160M / 256M cma. Tanikawa has own manifest: sandbox/ruke47/flounder_RPi3  (AGL-repo)
+       * qemux86-64 - Jan-Simon: qemu brings-up homescreen fine. GFX slow with runqemu but using publicvnc with runqemu is good. Still looking into audio-passthrough.
+       * intel - ?
+       * vayu - Homescreen/launcher show-up.
+     * Usage of gfx memory of wm/homescreen/launcher/apps ...
+       * Tanikawa-san working on small mem footprint solution. Might need qml sourcecode changes.
+     * RC2 will be released
+   * FF master:
+     * 7/31: Michael reports build error on master (1am CEST today) for m3 - optee-of, will file jira
+     * 7/31: mixer bug, 2nd invocation does not show mixer (similar to dashboard bug), Loic is investigating, Mitsunari-san: likely not similar to dashboard.
+     * Merge window / deadline for rc3 is: 14-Aug-2018
+   * Home Screen - need to resolve ownership of implementation of the Home Screen application. Could ask for volunteers on the mail list. Could hire someone to do it.
+     * 4/3 - Toyota will take care of for EE and FF.
+     * 4/10 - Will get an update from Tanikawa-san on Thursday in Karlsruhe.
+     * 4/24 - Local meeting in Tokyo tomorrow. Tanikawa-san will send an update update afterwards.
+     * 5/15 - Toyota will take care of Window Manager for FF (no change expected) and will split out the launcher application for Top Bar and the main Home Screen.
+     * 5/22 - No update
+     * 7/3 - Toyota will post policy manager and app launcher to gerrit soon to make it into RC2. Repos were created this week. Will need to review the policy manager interface to make sure it is generic and not dependent on the Toyota implementation that uses ZIPC generated code.
+     * 7/10 - Gerrit 15133 was added that has the interface mixed in with "sample" implementation from ZIPC. Requested that this be broken up into two commits.
+     * 7/24 - ZIPC reverted to push fix for RC2. Needs to be re-added for RC3.
+     * 7/31 - Need to add zipc
+   * [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346 | SPEC-1346]] - HTML5 app launcher issue. Dominig and Jose will have a joint integration session next week.  Walt to send an email asking about anyone having a good demo app for HTML5 that can be donated to AGL. Maybe Igalia can provide something?
+     * 4/10 - Juna Sanchez from Igalia will provide an update during the F2F meeting remotely.
+     * 4/24 - Igalia and LG having a workshop this week to work on web app framework.
+     * 5/8 - Workshop went well. Patches to be submitted by ALS?
+     * 5/15 - No update
+     * 5/22 - No update
+     * 5/29 - No update
+     * 6/26 - LG to add a new layer as an external repo to enable their HTML5 work. This will allow their web app manager (WAM) to be built on top of AGL. Still will need to enable individual services to be available. Will have a workshop at LG Sep 11 - 13.
+     * 7/3 - Wiki page for F2F meeting now available https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/sep2018-f2f
+     * 7/24 - No update
+     * 7/31 - Stephane tried meta-agl-lg, still needs adjustments for master
+   * Documentation Improvements - Dennis brought up that he has been showing AGL around his office and to other people. He noted that the AGL documentation site is out of date with respect to "Getting Started". His team is interested in creating a custom device creation and app development. His "Hello World" app no longer works as a starting point. He has some ideas on how to improve things. Will send out an email to the list and create a Jira ticket.
+     * 4/17 - Dennis sent and email with a list of suggestions/ comments. This was discussed during the F2F meeting in Karlsruhe last week as well.  We are also seeing "under the radar" requests for documentation on how to get up and running. Dominig suggested creating a series of videos to walk people through the process.
+     * 4/24 - Walt will start figuring out some ways to get this done.
+     * 5/8 - Jordan made some updates as he went through the documentation to get up to speed.
+     * 5/15 - No more to report. Walt is going to start a design document on google docs to get some comments before making the changes to the doc site.
+     * 7/10 - Kicking this off with an outside contractor to help with look and feel and filling in additional documentation.
+     * 7/17 - [[agl-distro:doc-site-improvements|Wiki page started]] to keep track of ideas for doc site improvements.
+     * 7/31 - No update
+   * Surface ID management proposal from ADIT
+     * Reviewed email thread, a few slides from Tanibata-san as well [[https://iot.bzh/download/public/2017/AMMQ1Tokyo/HomeScreen-Q1AMM2017-Fulup-IoTbzh.pdf | Fulup's proposal from AMM]]
+     * Jose will prepare a follow-up on security for next dev call (Apr 24)
+     * 4/24 - Discussed latest proposal from ADIT and Tanikawa and Jose's replies.  Seems like general agreement between IoT.bzh and Tanikawa. New proposal from Tanikawa-san after Golden Week.
+     * 5/8 - Missing ADIT and IoT.bzh today. Can discuss during App FW EG call tomorrow and/or SAT this week.
+     * 5/15 - Reviewed during Graphics EG call yesterday. Another update expected in two weeks during next EG call.
+     * 5/22 - On target to be reviewed on Monday
+     * 5/29 - Reviewed yesterday Graphics and UI call. Tanikawa updating his proposal. Another review in two weeks.
+     * 6/12 - Revised Proposal to be shown at the F2F meeting on June 19 in Tokyo.
+     * 6/26 - No update
+     * 7/3 - No update
+     * 7/10 - No update
+     * 7/24 - No update
+     * 7/31 - No update
+   * Google Summer of Code - Jordan
+     * 6/12 - Updating HVAC to be a service. Started on task manager app. Need an icon created. Will create Jira ticket.
+     * 6/26 - Away for last two weeks. Restarted work on task manager. Update to config file for LED will be completed this week.
+     * 7/3 - Task manager continues.
+     * 7/10 - Final changes to HVAC config were pushed to gerrit (15093). Requested help with procps.
+     * 7/17 - Figured out a workaround for the procps issue. Now working on creating the service.
+     * 7/24 - Backend done. Send email to ML about issue. Struggling with cmake (app-templates). wgt did not contain .so or bin . Debug session suggested. romain suggests a cache issue (remove build folder).
+     * 7/31 - Working on qml frontend, using cmake app-templates and app-helper submodule now. Issues to convert from QtCreator.
+     * Hema (MCHP) reported an issue starting an html5 app
+       * https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1570
+       * and https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346
+       * Tanikawa notes runxdg but multiple arguments on the cmdline are necessary (wrt launching qmlscene)
+       * goal: run html5 mediaplayer app within AGL. result: does not run atm.
+       * Tankiawa-san will send an example to use runxdg to the mailinglist.
+       * Update 7/31: Jose pushed fixes today for master
+         * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15789/
+         * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15793/
+     * for rc2: include https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15509/ include.
+       * 7/31: done.
+   * New Business:
+     * Jira questions
+       * SPEC-1260 - Agree with closure? Refer to SAT?
+       * SPEC-1611 - Can close?
+     *
+=== Meeting notes for July 31, 2018 ===
+Attendees: Jan-Simon, Nakamura-san, Clement, Dennis, Emmanuel, Frederic, Friedrich, George, Kurokawa-san, ichael, Christian, Jonathan, loic, Romain, Ronan, Stephane, Tanikawa-san, Tiejun Chen, Momiyama-san, Kusakabe-san
  * **DD Must-Fix Issues**.
      * DD 4.0.3 release with YP 2.2.3 version that went into QA.
-       * Update 2018-07-24: Released by YP - Steve's changes can be merged now.
      * DD 4.0.4 not planned. Will be on an as-needed basis. YP has started a 2.2.4.  Now 49% finished with QA.
      * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11416 | DD Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
+     * Update 7/31 : still waiting for YP release, then on demand
    * **EE Issues**
@@ Line 66: / Line 225: @@
      * 7/24
        * Waiting for: eval of homescreen/touch screen issues
+         * still debugging FF rc2 .
        * M3 test ?
+         * no wait for respin
        * hals for qemu, rpi3, vayu ??
+         * qemu, rpi3 (sandbox), vayu not (no board)
+           * for vayu:
+             * /dev/snd/
+             * aplay -l / -L
+             * aplay -D hw:<?> controls
+             * AI: jsmoeller, send it to Jonathan
+       * Update 07/31 - released
+         * 5.1.1 with updated poky planned after FF release, date tba
    * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11701 | EE Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
@@ Line 85: / Line 254: @@
        * Review of fixes for RC2
          * 4a:
-           * rpi hal ?
+           * rpi3 hal ?
+             * Stephane: in sandbox
            * any required version bumps ?
+             * 15557, 15541 & change for rpi3 hal (upcoming), 14239
+           * any pulse conditionals for post-rc2
+           * Michael: reports that genivi audio manager systemd unit is still in filesystem. will file jira (dlt? - @iot.bzh)
+           * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15499/  enabler right after rc2.
+           * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/14239/ add for rc2.
          * homescreen/windowmanager/launcher/dasboard:
            * Issues:
@@ Line 92: / Line 267: @@
              * dashboard twice click
            * what changes are necessary in rc2
-             * homescreen:
+             * 15553,
+             * homescreen: double free still under investigation (rpi3, vayu - ?32bit?) Mitsunari-san takes a closer look. -> do not wait with rc2.
              * windowmanager:
              * launcher:
-             * dashboard:
+             * dashboard: 15619
+             * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=apps/agl-service-windowmanager-2017.git;a=commit;h=6a10b5626c23ef900335f18c4fdbde4b98c885d8
+             * memory use on small platforms still issue (qml applications use a lot of memory), improvement by not hardcoding full-hd scale in apps, also on m3 + chrome,
+     * RC2 reloaded: any blockers ?
+       * m3 ? - Stephane: homescreen stacktrace, checking with fresh build
+       * rpi3: - Tanikawa-san: build ok, homescreen/wm kind-of unstable, homescreen+launcher alone consume 160M / 256M cma. Tanikawa has own manifest: sandbox/ruke47/flounder_RPi3  (AGL-repo)
+       * qemux86-64 - Jan-Simon: qemu brings-up homescreen fine. GFX slow with runqemu but using publicvnc with runqemu is good. Still looking into audio-passthrough.
+       * intel - ?
+       * vayu - Homescreen/launcher show-up.
+     * Usage of gfx memory of wm/homescreen/launcher/apps ...
+       * Tanikawa-san working on small mem footprint solution. Might need qml sourcecode changes.
+     * RC2 will be released
+   * FF master:
+     * 7/31: Michael reports build error on master (1am CEST today) for m3 - optee-of, will file jira
+     * 7/31: mixer bug, 2nd invocation does not show mixer (similar to dashboard bug), Loic is investigating, Mitsunari-san: likely not similar to dashboard.
+     * Merge window / deadline for rc3 is: 14-Aug-2018
    * Home Screen - need to resolve ownership of implementation of the Home Screen application. Could ask for volunteers on the mail list. Could hire someone to do it.
@@ Line 106: / Line 297: @@
      * 7/10 - Gerrit 15133 was added that has the interface mixed in with "sample" implementation from ZIPC. Requested that this be broken up into two commits.
      * 7/24 - ZIPC reverted to push fix for RC2. Needs to be re-added for RC3.
+     * 7/31 - Need to add zipc
    * [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346 | SPEC-1346]] - HTML5 app launcher issue. Dominig and Jose will have a joint integration session next week.  Walt to send an email asking about anyone having a good demo app for HTML5 that can be donated to AGL. Maybe Igalia can provide something?
@@ Line 116: / Line 308: @@
      * 6/26 - LG to add a new layer as an external repo to enable their HTML5 work. This will allow their web app manager (WAM) to be built on top of AGL. Still will need to enable individual services to be available. Will have a workshop at LG Sep 11 - 13.
      * 7/3 - Wiki page for F2F meeting now available https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/sep2018-f2f
+     * 7/24 - No update
+     * 7/31 - Stephane tried meta-agl-lg, still needs adjustments for master
    * Documentation Improvements - Dennis brought up that he has been showing AGL around his office and to other people. He noted that the AGL documentation site is out of date with respect to "Getting Started". His team is interested in creating a custom device creation and app development. His "Hello World" app no longer works as a starting point. He has some ideas on how to improve things. Will send out an email to the list and create a Jira ticket.
@@ Line 124: / Line 318: @@
      * 7/10 - Kicking this off with an outside contractor to help with look and feel and filling in additional documentation.
      * 7/17 - [[agl-distro:doc-site-improvements|Wiki page started]] to keep track of ideas for doc site improvements.
+     * 7/31 - No update
@@ Line 138: / Line 333: @@
      * 7/3 - No update
      * 7/10 - No update
+     * 7/24 - No update
+     * 7/31 - No update
    * Google Summer of Code - Jordan
@@ Line 145: / Line 342: @@
      * 7/10 - Final changes to HVAC config were pushed to gerrit (15093). Requested help with procps.
      * 7/17 - Figured out a workaround for the procps issue. Now working on creating the service.
+     * 7/24 - Backend done. Send email to ML about issue. Struggling with cmake (app-templates). wgt did not contain .so or bin . Debug session suggested. romain suggests a cache issue (remove build folder).
+     * 7/31 - Working on qml frontend, using cmake app-templates and app-helper submodule now. Issues to convert from QtCreator.
-   * New Business:
+     * Hema (MCHP) reported an issue starting an html5 app
+       * https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1570
+       * and https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346
+       * Tanikawa notes runxdg but multiple arguments on the cmdline are necessary (wrt launching qmlscene)
+       * goal: run html5 mediaplayer app within AGL. result: does not run atm.
+       * Tankiawa-san will send an example to use runxdg to the mailinglist.
+       * Update 7/31: Jose pushed fixes today for master
+         * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15789/
+         * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15793/
+     * for rc2: include https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15509/ include.
+       * 7/31: done.
-=== Meeting notes for July 17, 2018 ===
+   * New Business:
-Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Clement, Frederic, Jonathan, Michael, Chris, Sebastien, Romain, Matt, Loic, Nick, Scott, Stephane, Stoyan, Tanikawa, Jordan, Dennis, Mitsunari, Kusakabe, Momiyama, Thierry, Ronan
+     * most: condition kernel patch causes issues on:
+       * vayu, dragonboard-410, qemuarm, qemuaarch64
+       * AI Jan-Simon: send logs and kernel versions to Chris
+     *
+=== Meeting notes for July 24, 2018 ===
+Attendees: Jan-Simon, Stephane, Frederic, Tom, Michael, Christian, Hema, Sebastian, Matt, Romain, Yordan, Mitsunari-san, Momiyama-san, Kurokawa-san, Jose, Scott, Leon, Clement Loic, Tanikawa-san, Yamaguchi-san, Stoyan, Jonathan, Kusakabe-san, Nakamura-san
  * **DD Must-Fix Issues**.
      * DD 4.0.3 release with YP 2.2.3 version that went into QA.
-       * Update 2018-07-24: Released by YP - Steve's changes can be merged now.
      * DD 4.0.4 not planned. Will be on an as-needed basis. YP has started a 2.2.4.  Now 49% finished with QA.
@@ Line 178: / Line 392: @@
        * M3 to be tested still
        * New RC being cut.
+     * 7/24
+       * Waiting for: eval of homescreen/touch screen issues
+         * still debugging FF rc2 .
+       * M3 test ?
+         * no wait for respin
+       * hals for qemu, rpi3, vayu ??
+         * qemu, rpi3 (sandbox), vayu not (no board)
+           * for vayu:
+             * /dev/snd/
+             * aplay -l / -L
+             * aplay -D hw:<?> controls
+             * AI: jsmoeller, send it to Jonathan
    * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11701 | EE Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
@@ Line 195: / Line 421: @@
        * Review of fixes for RC2
          * 4a:
-           * rpi hal ?
+           * rpi3 hal ?
+             * Stephane: in sandbox
            * any required version bumps ?
+             * 15557, 15541 & change for rpi3 hal (upcoming), 14239
+           * any pulse conditionals for post-rc2
+           * Michael: reports that genivi audio manager systemd unit is still in filesystem. will file jira (dlt? - @iot.bzh)
+           * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15499/  enabler right after rc2.
+           * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/14239/ add for rc2.
          * homescreen/windowmanager/launcher/dasboard:
            * Issues:
@@ Line 202: / Line 434: @@
              * dashboard twice click
            * what changes are necessary in rc2
-             * homescreen:
+             * 15553,
+             * homescreen: double free still under investigation (rpi3, vayu - ?32bit?) Mitsunari-san takes a closer look. -> do not wait with rc2.
              * windowmanager:
              * launcher:
-             * dashboard:
+             * dashboard: 15619
+             * https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=apps/agl-service-windowmanager-2017.git;a=commit;h=6a10b5626c23ef900335f18c4fdbde4b98c885d8
+             * memory use on small platforms still issue (qml applications use a lot of memory), improvement by not hardcoding full-hd scale in apps, also on m3 + chrome,
    * Home Screen - need to resolve ownership of implementation of the Home Screen application. Could ask for volunteers on the mail list. Could hire someone to do it.
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      * 7/10 - Gerrit 15133 was added that has the interface mixed in with "sample" implementation from ZIPC. Requested that this be broken up into two commits.
      * 7/24 - ZIPC reverted to push fix for RC2. Needs to be re-added for RC3.
+   * [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346 | SPEC-1346]] - HTML5 app launcher issue. Dominig and Jose will have a joint integration session next week.  Walt to send an email asking about anyone having a good demo app for HTML5 that can be donated to AGL. Maybe Igalia can provide something?
+     * 4/10 - Juna Sanchez from Igalia will provide an update during the F2F meeting remotely.
+     * 4/24 - Igalia and LG having a workshop this week to work on web app framework.
+     * 5/8 - Workshop went well. Patches to be submitted by ALS?
+     * 5/15 - No update
+     * 5/22 - No update
+     * 5/29 - No update
+     * 6/26 - LG to add a new layer as an external repo to enable their HTML5 work. This will allow their web app manager (WAM) to be built on top of AGL. Still will need to enable individual services to be available. Will have a workshop at LG Sep 11 - 13.
+     * 7/3 - Wiki page for F2F meeting now available https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/sep2018-f2f
+     * 7/24 - No update
+   * Documentation Improvements - Dennis brought up that he has been showing AGL around his office and to other people. He noted that the AGL documentation site is out of date with respect to "Getting Started". His team is interested in creating a custom device creation and app development. His "Hello World" app no longer works as a starting point. He has some ideas on how to improve things. Will send out an email to the list and create a Jira ticket.
+     * 4/17 - Dennis sent and email with a list of suggestions/ comments. This was discussed during the F2F meeting in Karlsruhe last week as well.  We are also seeing "under the radar" requests for documentation on how to get up and running. Dominig suggested creating a series of videos to walk people through the process.
+     * 4/24 - Walt will start figuring out some ways to get this done.
+     * 5/8 - Jordan made some updates as he went through the documentation to get up to speed.
+     * 5/15 - No more to report. Walt is going to start a design document on google docs to get some comments before making the changes to the doc site.
+     * 7/10 - Kicking this off with an outside contractor to help with look and feel and filling in additional documentation.
+     * 7/17 - [[agl-distro:doc-site-improvements|Wiki page started]] to keep track of ideas for doc site improvements.
+   * Surface ID management proposal from ADIT
+     * Reviewed email thread, a few slides from Tanibata-san as well [[https://iot.bzh/download/public/2017/AMMQ1Tokyo/HomeScreen-Q1AMM2017-Fulup-IoTbzh.pdf | Fulup's proposal from AMM]]
+     * Jose will prepare a follow-up on security for next dev call (Apr 24)
+     * 4/24 - Discussed latest proposal from ADIT and Tanikawa and Jose's replies.  Seems like general agreement between IoT.bzh and Tanikawa. New proposal from Tanikawa-san after Golden Week.
+     * 5/8 - Missing ADIT and IoT.bzh today. Can discuss during App FW EG call tomorrow and/or SAT this week.
+     * 5/15 - Reviewed during Graphics EG call yesterday. Another update expected in two weeks during next EG call.
+     * 5/22 - On target to be reviewed on Monday
+     * 5/29 - Reviewed yesterday Graphics and UI call. Tanikawa updating his proposal. Another review in two weeks.
+     * 6/12 - Revised Proposal to be shown at the F2F meeting on June 19 in Tokyo.
+     * 6/26 - No update
+     * 7/3 - No update
+     * 7/10 - No update
+     * 7/24 - No update
+   * Google Summer of Code - Jordan
+     * 6/12 - Updating HVAC to be a service. Started on task manager app. Need an icon created. Will create Jira ticket.
+     * 6/26 - Away for last two weeks. Restarted work on task manager. Update to config file for LED will be completed this week.
+     * 7/3 - Task manager continues.
+     * 7/10 - Final changes to HVAC config were pushed to gerrit (15093). Requested help with procps.
+     * 7/17 - Figured out a workaround for the procps issue. Now working on creating the service.
+     * 7/24 - Backend done. Send email to ML about issue. Struggling with cmake (app-templates). wgt did not contain .so or bin . Debug session suggested. romain suggests a cache issue (remove build folder).
+   * New Business:
+     * Hema (MCHP) reported an issue starting an html5 app
+       * https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1570
+       * and https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346
+       * Tanikawa notes runxdg but multiple arguments on the cmdline are necessary (wrt launching qmlscene)
+       * goal: run html5 mediaplayer app within AGL. result: does not run atm.
+       * Tankiawa-san will send an example to use runxdg to the mailinglist.
+     * for rc2: https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15509/ include.
+     *
+=== Meeting notes for July 17, 2018 ===
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Clement, Frederic, Jonathan, Michael, Chris, Sebastien, Romain, Matt, Loic, Nick, Scott, Stephane, Stoyan, Tanikawa, Jordan, Dennis, Mitsunari, Kusakabe, Momiyama, Thierry, Ronan
+ * **DD Must-Fix Issues**.
+     * DD 4.0.3 release with YP 2.2.3 version that went into QA.
+       * Update 2018-07-24: Released by YP - Steve's changes can be merged now.
+     * DD 4.0.4 not planned. Will be on an as-needed basis. YP has started a 2.2.4.  Now 49% finished with QA.
+     * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11416 | DD Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
+   * **EE Issues**
+   * Eel 5.0.1 - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_501|Release completed!]]
+   * Eel 5.0.2 - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_502|Release completed!]]
+   * Eel 5.0.3 - [[agl-distro:release-notes#eel_503|Release completed!]]
+   * Eel 5.1.0 (was 5.0.4) - Merge window closes 02 July.
+     * 7/3 - Rename to 5.1.0 since audio API changed
+       * No YP 2.3.4 release yet (currently at 92% QA).
+       * Need to do some final testing of audio with latest eel.
+       * Available HALs: M3, M3+KF, Intel, QEMU, RPI3, TI
+     * 7/10 - No YP 2.3.4
+       * Will release 5.1.0 this week and pick up YP 2.3.4 and last of FF audio changes in August.
+     * 7/17
+       * RC sent out.
+       * Stop ship issue found vayu comes up, but touch screen not working.
+       * Also RPI broken (weston comes up, but black screen only)
+       * M3 to be tested still
+       * New RC being cut.
+   * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11701 | EE Must Fix Issues]] in Jira
+   * Funky Flounder (master)
+     * RC1 released
+     * RC2 in progress
+       * RC2 pre-version was sent out by Jan-Simon. Vayu and Raspberry Pi come up with a blank screen.
+       * No audio using default sound card M3.
+       * M3: Media player no audio and no media scanning (SPEC-1587)
+       * Intel Minnowboard: no media player
+       * Loic working on getting media player to work with 4a.
+       * QEMU no media player
+       * Other Known Issues
+         * Raspberry Pi3 64 bit does not boot. Jan-Simon noted that 64 bit has not really been tested. For now 64 bit is not required for AGL given the memory size of the Raspberry
+   * Home Screen - need to resolve ownership of implementation of the Home Screen application. Could ask for volunteers on the mail list. Could hire someone to do it.
+     * 4/3 - Toyota will take care of for EE and FF.
+     * 4/10 - Will get an update from Tanikawa-san on Thursday in Karlsruhe.
+     * 4/24 - Local meeting in Tokyo tomorrow. Tanikawa-san will send an update update afterwards.
+     * 5/15 - Toyota will take care of Window Manager for FF (no change expected) and will split out the launcher application for Top Bar and the main Home Screen.
+     * 5/22 - No update
+     * 7/3 - Toyota will post policy manager and app launcher to gerrit soon to make it into RC2. Repos were created this week. Will need to review the policy manager interface to make sure it is generic and not dependent on the Toyota implementation that uses ZIPC generated code.
+     * 7/10 - Gerrit 15133 was added that has the interface mixed in with "sample" implementation from ZIPC. Requested that this be broken up into two commits.
    * [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-1346 | SPEC-1346]] - HTML5 app launcher issue. Dominig and Jose will have a joint integration session next week.  Walt to send an email asking about anyone having a good demo app for HTML5 that can be donated to AGL. Maybe Igalia can provide something?

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