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 +==== January 16, 2020 ====
 +Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting// ​
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 +==== January 2, 2020 ====
 +Meeting Cancelled
 +
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 +==== December 19, 2019 ====
 +Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting// ​
 +
 +
 +==== December 5, 2019 ====
 +Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Michael, Edi, Stephane, Sebastian, George, Nick, Jasim Quazi, Jeremy Puhlman, Guy, Julian, Ohiwa, Dr. Yamaguchi, Kurokawa, Kusakabe, Nishiguchi, Scott, Sekine
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 +   * Window manager update from Daniel
 +   * Icefish RC2 decisions
 +     * Token logic. Edi tested and no regressions noted. WE will include the token logic in the RC2
 +     * Waiting on one last patch from George. Will take Jacobo'​s changes and one liner from Scott for low CAN. 
 +     * Waiting on the last changes from Daniel and Scott for window manager. Really need to get this into RC2 today. Guy will check with Daniel. ​
 + 
 +   * SPEC-2927 - Window Manager for WAM
 +
 +   * RHSA RFQ - updated the RFQ document with comments. The revised version is {{:​eg-rhsa:​agl_referencehardware_rfq_v0.2.pdf|here}}.
 +     * 8/29 Panasonic is reviewing ​
 +     * 9/12 - Panasonic still in review. Sekine-san will check with Panasonic about EG review during the AMM in Monaco. ​
 +     * 9/26 - Still in review at Panasonic. Sekine-san expects a reply soon. 
 +     * 10/10 - Sekine-san thinks Panasonic will release the RFQ in time to be reviewed in Monte Carlo, Walt will be in Yokohama in November, We should plan a F2F meeting at that time with Panasonic and RHSA EG. 
 +     * 11/7 - SC to meet next week and make recommendation to AB. We will make sure that Panasonic and Mazda RHSA team members are invited to that portion of the SC meeting next week. 
 +     * 11/21 - SC meeting last week in Yokohama. Waiting on block diagram from Panasonic which was promised for two weeks (next week). There is a meeting next week in Tokyo to discuss further. There is a on-going discussion between Panasonic and Renesas about BSP.  Also will get a quote for creating the BSP from Konsulko.  ​
 +     * 12/4 - Block diagram [[ https://​wiki.automotivelinux.org/​_media/​eg-rhsa/​r-car_h3_reference_hardware_blockdiagram_20191126.pdf | uploaded to the wiki page]]. Will be reviewed at the steering committee on Monday/​Tuesday. ​
 + 
 +   * Gap analysis - Denso Ten will release documentation for radio and tuner functions by the end of September. ​
 +     * 9/12 - document is 60% translated to english. Kusakabe will present an update at the dev call next week. 
 +     * 9/26 
 +       ​* ​ **Radio API review **
 +       * Sample API of Denso Ten released in staging/​documents
 +       * Goal is to refine the radio api with additional functions found in the review of above
 +       * focus on generic calls over hw specifics
 +       * Scott Murray will review the documents and make a proposal for extending the radio api for review in the connectivity call and during AMM
 +       * Lateron a definition is needed how the interface to the various implementations (hw+driver) can be done
 +     * 10/10
 +       * Kusakabe posted the API to Gerrit https://​git.automotivelinux.org/​staging/​documents/​log/?​h=sandbox/​kusakabe/​radio-api
 +       * Kusakabe to release additional APIs by the end of the month
 +       * Scott needs to review. Need some additional Tier 1 or OEM reviewers. ​
 +     * 11/7 - Scott has been blocked on higher priority tasks. Will bring this up to SC as an area for additional Tier One members to review the proposed API. 
 +     * 11/21 - No update. ​
 +     * 12/4 - No update. Further translations from Denso Ten may be available at the end of December. ​
 +
 +   * LTS  ​
 +     * 9/26 (Berlin F2F)
 + * AI: identify base services. What is in core-image-minimal that is available in all profiles. ​
 +  * lifecycle
 +    * apps vs platform (which applications ​
 +    * 
 +  * API definition & documentation & Schema
 +    * AI: iot.bzh will follow-up on https://​jira.automotivelinux.org/​browse/​SPEC-1903
 +    * e.g. what about new things like: https://​fuchsia.googlesource.com/​docs/​+/​ea2fce2874556205204d3ef70c60e25074dc7ffd/​development/​languages/​fidl/​tutorial.md
 +    * Follow-up on SAT
 +  * API versions
 +    * -> APPFW / Jose
 +
 +  * '​core'​ LTS vs. IVI or Cluster LTS
 +    * depends on changes required e.g. by IC 
 +  * 11/7 - 3 year Yocto LTS proposal was debated in Lyon last week, but no decision was made. No one was opposed to the proposal as it is written, but funding is a question. Proposal is to maintain OE Core, so it still leaves most of our user space and meta-openembedded as question marks for us.  ​
 +    * There were a number of talks last week in Lyon about using a combination of Debian/​Fedora/​CentOS for user space and Yocto for BSPs for LTS in embedded projects. ​
 +      * Stephane posted link for [[https://​wiki.centos.org/​Manuals/​ReleaseNotes/​CentOSStream CentOS Stream]] which is the CentOS plan for LTS and testing. ​
 +      * Will add to SC agenda for next week. 
 +    * 11/21 - SC did not get to this topic, Will be addressed at December meeting. ​
 +    * 12/5 - Following up next week. 
 +
 +   * Toyota Code Drop
 +     * 10/10 
 +       * No update. Will need some decisions about how we want APIs to be formatted based on LTS discussion. ​
 +       * Kusakabe-Can will meet with Ohiwa-san next week and provide some feedback to the AGL community,
 +     * 11/7 - Toyota documents are quite large. Were posted on Confluence. Ohiwa-san is working on splitting them up and providing header files. ​ Ohiwa-san will be in Yokohama next week to discuss the next steps with the SC. 
 +     * 11/21 - 
 +     * Notes from SC meeting ​
 +     * Discussed the need to take each of the API documents and deep dive the contents with the appropriate developers within the AGL community. Will need Toyota to do some analysis of the architectural/​ design gaps between AGL and their proposed code changes and work with the community to fill those gaps. For example, the “Peripheral API” document has a lot of details about CAN messaging but it is difficult to determine what the context of API is and how it fits into the overall architecture. There may be parts of it that are already covered by AGL. Suggestion is for Toyota to pick an API to focus on and develop the higher level context with the AGL community to figure out how to fit it into the existing structure. ​
 +     * Ohiwa-san is working on providing the context for the API documents. First task will be System Manager API in the System Service Document (see [[https://​confluence.automotivelinux.org/​display/​TC/​Documents | Confluence]] for more on the documents. ​
 +     * 12/4 - Ohiwa-san presented Persistent Data Manager (Backup Manager) use case ideas.  ​
 +       * Discussion on whether the existing AGL [[ https://​git.automotivelinux.org/​apps/​agl-service-data-persistence/​tree/​src/​persistence-binding.c |data persistence binder]] can be reused/ extended.
 +       * Discussion of whether the backed up data is in a Linux file system, a proprietary file system, or managed memory of some sort (battery backed RAM or flash). ​
 +       * Other requirements need to be documented that were discussed. Ohiwa-san will update and we will review further at the next SAT meeting.  ​
 +
 +
 +   * Navi EG met last week with Momiyama-san and they will present a new architecture at the November SAT call. 
 +     * 11/7 - More discussion needed before Navi EG is ready to present the new architecture. ​
 +     * 11/21 - Navi EG presented an update last week in Yokohama. Need to get the document from Micware. ​
 + 
 +   * FOSDEM
 +     * FOSDEM stand accepted. Deadline for embedded devroom talk submissions is Dec 6. 
 +     * Will put together a sign up for staffing the stand at FOSDEM
 +     * Deadline for AMM CFP is Dec 6
 +
 +   * ELISA updates
 +     * ELISA and IC EG are recruiting AGL members to participate. The next F2F meeting for ELISA is in Brussel the Thursday and Friday before FOSDEM. Registration information can be found [[https://​elisa.tech/​announcement/​2019/​10/​17/​elisa-brussels-workshop-january30-31-2020/​ | here]] ​
 +     * ELISA groups.io page can be found [[https://​lists.elisa.tech/​g/​devel | here ]]
 +     * New ELISA development process subgroup has formed. See their [[ https://​lists.elisa.tech/​g/​devel/​topic/​please_join/​61718502?​p=,,,​20,​0,​0,​0::​recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,​20,​2,​0,​61718502 | groups.io page]] for more information and to sign up. 
 + 
 +New Business:
 +
 +   * Future meeting scheduling ​
 +     * Block scheduling of meetings to consolidate the schedule
 +     * Japanese members attending the call are ok with this meetings at this time. 
 +     * Might be better one or two hours earlier than currently (Hosokawa) ​
 +     * Will bring up at the SC meeting next week. Also post a question on the mail list (maybe create a poll)
 +
  
 ==== November 21, 2019 ==== ==== November 21, 2019 ====
 +Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Sebastien, Guy, Michael, Stephane, Nick, Hosokawa, Haraki, Kurokawa, Sekine, Ohiwa, Kusakabe, Nishiguchi, Dr. Yamaguchi, ​
 +
  
    * Daniel getting window manager into Gerrit for Karlsruhe next week.     * Daniel getting window manager into Gerrit for Karlsruhe next week. 
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