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+==== Aug 2, 2018 ====
+Attendees: Jan-Simon, Stephane, Kurokawa, Michael, Ronan, Tanikawa-san, Kusakabe-san, Nick, Fulup, George, Jose, Momiyama-san
+   * Discussed Issues with FF RC2
+     * Fixing the black display issue requires reverting policy manager change (Jan-Simon will use gerrit 15461) due to bit bake failures. Once the revesion is finished Jan-Simon will merge change from Tanikawa's display fix.
+     * Race condition between home screen and launcher. If launcher wins the home screen is useless.
+     * Audio - discussed how to make 4a the default audio in aglsetup.sh so that pre-built binaries use 4a and users who do their own builds default to 4a unless they override the selection to use soundmanager or pulse.
+     * Schedule - revised FF schedule for RC2, RC3, and final release
+     * RC2 finished, release email soon
+     * Tanikawa's work:
+       * set of changes in gerrit to reduce memory used
+       * navigation and poi do not support that mode
+       * mixer needs to be checked (Tanikawa-san will push try to sandbox, Loic will check)
+     *
+   * Reviewed and edited [[agl-distro:release-notes#funky_flounder|Funky Flounder release notes]]
+     * Decision taken that 4a will be the default build option for 6.0.0 (and 5.1.0 the next eel release).
+     * Update 8/2 - was merged as https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/15499/
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Plan for 2018
+      * Need additional SAT oversight and open up of the work.
+      * 3/29 - Tanikawa meeting with Toyota next week about their proposal. Tanikawa will present the Toyota plan at the F2F in Karlsruhe since Toyota cannot attend.
+      * 4/26 - Tanikawa spoke to Hoshina-san about Toyota schedule for 2018 and CES demo.  Need to get something in writing from Toyota on their schedule of features for this year.
+      * 5/24 - Surface ID management proposal from Tanikawa-san is being updated for Monday's Graphics and UI EG call. Additional discussions on the plan for Window Manager and Homescreen will be discussed in Lorient in two weeks. Need to get ADIT's schedule for updating the ID agent to ensure that it will be available and working in FF.
+      * 6/7 - Tanikawa working on high level design for window manager and homescreen to be reviewed at the June 19 F2F SAT meeting in Tokyo. Will also need a plan for staffing and timing to be presented to the AB in Tokyo.  Plan from Toyota in SPEC-1467.  It looks like splitting App Launcher from Homescreen will happen by late June from Toyota. Rest of their work is planned for September or later, but they will not be working with us as a community.
+      * 8/2 - Push to next SAT call
+    * V2C EG
+      * Kicks off July 16. Meetings planned every two weeks.
+      * 2/8 - 2 meetings meanwhile,
+        * Collecting use cases https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/eg-v2c#business_use_case_candidates
+        * Feedback welcome
+        * Overlap and differences to Connectivity EG
+   * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11710 | Jira tickets for SAT]]
+   * Security Blueprint - SPEC-1454
+     * Security Expert Group discussed dropping the old blueprint from the doc site.
+   * Web app framework - Updates from LG/Igalia?
+     * 5/24 - Nothing to report.
+     * 6/7 - Stephane will create a summary report of the findings from this weeks meetings including a list of action items to pursue.
+     * 8/2 - Stephane reports:
+       * Jose pushed example html5 apps and a few fixes
+       * meta-agl-lge: Status is that it works with EE, the FF branch is still WIP with master. Sebastien will take over when back.
+   * Possibility that Suzuki could contribute new design for CES 2019.  Tanikawa says they had proposal that was shown at local Japan meeting this week.
+     * 5/24 - Nothing to report. Next Japanese local meeting is next week. Will get an update for next SAT meeting.
+     * 6/7 - Nothing to report. Need to figure out if this is real by ALS or pursue getting an updated design elsewhere.
+     * 8/2 - Nothing new.
+   * Dynamic library link usage. See SPEC-1454. Added a comment to it. Assigned to Jose.
+New:
+  * SPEC-1601 - discussion on pulse:
+    * 4a pulse plugin makes pulse a client to 4a
+    * for FF:
+      * agl-demo be 4a+pulse (pulse active with plugin), option to build w/o pulse
+        * additive agl-nopulse feature to aglsetup: removes the pulse DISTRO_FEATURE/BACKFILL
+      * we can merge george patches
+    * for GG:
+      * core should not ship pulse , only by upper layer request
+      * pulse to have minimal config by default, and fragments add configuration bits in separate package
+      * binary image can install lateron
+  *
+==== July 19, 2018 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Stephane, Kurokawa, Mitsunari, Michael, Sebastien, Tanikawa, Kusakabe
+   * Discussed Issues with FF RC2
+     * Fixing the black display issue requires reverting policy manager change (Jan-Simon will use gerrit 15461) due to bit bake failures. Once the revesion is finished Jan-Simon will merge change from Tanikawa's display fix.
+     * Race condition between home screen and launcher. If launcher wins the home screen is useless.
+     * Audio - discussed how to make 4a the default audio in aglsetup.sh so that pre-built binaries use 4a and users who do their own builds default to 4a unless they override the selection to use soundmanager or pulse.
+     * Schedule - revised FF schedule for RC2, RC3, and final release
+   * Reviewed and edited [[agl-distro:release-notes#funky_flounder|Funky Flounder release notes]]
+     * Decision taken that 4a will be the default build option for 6.0.0 (and 5.1.0 the next eel release).
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Plan for 2018
+      * Need additional SAT oversight and open up of the work.
+      * 3/29 - Tanikawa meeting with Toyota next week about their proposal. Tanikawa will present the Toyota plan at the F2F in Karlsruhe since Toyota cannot attend.
+      * 4/26 - Tanikawa spoke to Hoshina-san about Toyota schedule for 2018 and CES demo.  Need to get something in writing from Toyota on their schedule of features for this year.
+      * 5/24 - Surface ID management proposal from Tanikawa-san is being updated for Monday's Graphics and UI EG call. Additional discussions on the plan for Window Manager and Homescreen will be discussed in Lorient in two weeks. Need to get ADIT's schedule for updating the ID agent to ensure that it will be available and working in FF.
+      * 6/7 - Tanikawa working on high level design for window manager and homescreen to be reviewed at the June 19 F2F SAT meeting in Tokyo. Will also need a plan for staffing and timing to be presented to the AB in Tokyo.  Plan from Toyota in SPEC-1467.  It looks like splitting App Launcher from Homescreen will happen by late June from Toyota. Rest of their work is planned for September or later, but they will not be working with us as a community.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Kicks off July 16. Meetings planned every two weeks.
+   * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11710 | Jira tickets for SAT]]
+   * Web app framework - Updates from LG/Igalia?
+     * 5/24 - Nothing to report.
+     * 6/7 - Stephane will create a summary report of the findings from this weeks meetings including a list of action items to pursue.
+   * Possibility that Suzuki could contribute new design for CES 2019.  Tanikawa says they had proposal that was shown at local Japan meeting this week.
+     * 5/24 - Nothing to report. Next Japanese local meeting is next week. Will get an update for next SAT meeting.
+     * 6/7 - Nothing to report. Need to figure out if this is real by ALS or pursue getting an updated design elsewhere.
+   * Dynamic library link usage. See SPEC-1454. Added a comment to it. Assigned to Jose.
+New:
+   * SPEC-1534 - In-tree builds fail with newer versions of app-templates
+   * Feedback from ALS Demo
+==== July 5, 2018 ====
+Attendees: Walt, Jan-Simon, Michael, Daniel, George, Kurokawa, Guy, Tanikawa, Michele, Momiyama, Yamaguchi, Stephane, Sebastien, Tiejun
+   * Reviewed and edited [[agl-distro:release-notes#funky_flounder|Funky Flounder release notes]]
+     * Decision taken that 4a will be the default build option for 6.0.0 (and 5.1.0 the next eel release).
+    * Window Manager and Homescreen Plan for 2018
+      * Need additional SAT oversight and open up of the work.
+      * 3/29 - Tanikawa meeting with Toyota next week about their proposal. Tanikawa will present the Toyota plan at the F2F in Karlsruhe since Toyota cannot attend.
+      * 4/26 - Tanikawa spoke to Hoshina-san about Toyota schedule for 2018 and CES demo.  Need to get something in writing from Toyota on their schedule of features for this year.
+      * 5/24 - Surface ID management proposal from Tanikawa-san is being updated for Monday's Graphics and UI EG call. Additional discussions on the plan for Window Manager and Homescreen will be discussed in Lorient in two weeks. Need to get ADIT's schedule for updating the ID agent to ensure that it will be available and working in FF.
+      * 6/7 - Tanikawa working on high level design for window manager and homescreen to be reviewed at the June 19 F2F SAT meeting in Tokyo. Will also need a plan for staffing and timing to be presented to the AB in Tokyo.  Plan from Toyota in SPEC-1467.  It looks like splitting App Launcher from Homescreen will happen by late June from Toyota. Rest of their work is planned for September or later, but they will not be working with us as a community.
+    * V2C EG
+      * Kicks off July 16. Meetings planned every two weeks.
+   * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11710 | Jira tickets for SAT]]
+   * Web app framework - Updates from LG/Igalia?
+     * 5/24 - Nothing to report.
+     * 6/7 - Stephane will create a summary report of the findings from this weeks meetings including a list of action items to pursue.
+   * Possibility that Suzuki could contribute new design for CES 2019.  Tanikawa says they had proposal that was shown at local Japan meeting this week.
+     * 5/24 - Nothing to report. Next Japanese local meeting is next week. Will get an update for next SAT meeting.
+     * 6/7 - Nothing to report. Need to figure out if this is real by ALS or pursue getting an updated design elsewhere.
+   * Dynamic library link usage. See SPEC-1454. Added a comment to it. Assigned to Jose.
+New:
+   * SPEC-1534 - In-tree builds fail with newer versions of app-templates
+   * Feedback from ALS Demo
 ==== June 21, 2018 ====
-Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+Attendees:
+See [[agl-distro:jun2018-f2f|Face to Face Technical Meeting in Tokyo, Japan]] and {{:agl-distro:agl_sat_tokyo_june_19_2018.pdf|}}
-==== June 7, 2018 ====
-Attendees: //Upcoming Meeting//
+==== June 7, 2018 ====
+Attendees: Walt
    * Development processes and tool usage
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       * 4/26 - Tanikawa spoke to Hoshina-san about Toyota schedule for 2018 and CES demo.  Need to get something in writing from Toyota on their schedule of features for this year.
       * 5/24 - Surface ID management proposal from Tanikawa-san is being updated for Monday's Graphics and UI EG call. Additional discussions on the plan for Window Manager and Homescreen will be discussed in Lorient in two weeks. Need to get ADIT's schedule for updating the ID agent to ensure that it will be available and working in FF.
+      * 6/7 - Tanikawa working on high level design for window manager and homescreen to be reviewed at the June 19 F2F SAT meeting in Tokyo. Will also need a plan for staffing and timing to be presented to the AB in Tokyo.  Plan from Toyota in SPEC-1467.  It looks like splitting App Launcher from Homescreen will happen by late June from Toyota. Rest of their work is planned for September or later, but they will not be working with us as a community.
     * V2C EG
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       * 3/29 - Kicked off at AMM. Waiting for regular meeting schedule.
       * 5/23 - No update. Have not seen any follow up meetings scheduled. Will get in touch with Ashley to see if this is something he will continue to lead.
+      * 6/7/ - Email sent to Ashley and Lasse at ForgeRock. Waiting on reply.
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      * 4/26 - Sub-tasks continuing
      * 5/24 - Part 3 in gerrit. Issues being looked at.
+     * 6/7 - Part 3 has been merged! Current HTML5 demo is broken. Need to consider how to build this up in a manner that does not use Qt. Now we need a demo of a telematics unit!
    * Review [[https://jira.automotivelinux.org/issues/?filter=11710 | Jira tickets for SAT]]
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      * 4/26 - Tanikawa looking at resolving for FF.
      * 5/24 - Nothing to report
+     * 6/7 - Nothing to report
    * Web app framework - Updates from LG/Igalia?
      * 5/24 - Nothing to report.
+     * 6/7 - Stephane will create a summary report of the findings from this weeks meetings including a list of action items to pursue.
    * Possibility that Suzuki could contribute new design for CES 2019.  Tanikawa says they had proposal that was shown at local Japan meeting this week.
      * 5/24 - Nothing to report. Next Japanese local meeting is next week. Will get an update for next SAT meeting.
+     * 6/7 - Nothing to report. Need to figure out if this is real by ALS or pursue getting an updated design elsewhere.
 New:
-   * Dynamic library link usage. See SPEC-1454
+   * Dynamic library link usage. See SPEC-1454. Added a comment to it. Assigned to Jose.

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